Well that filth didn't take long.:yawn:
Cosby Is a Serial Rapist
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Well that filth didn't take long.:yawn:
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The detailed criminal complaint filed against Cosby is available to read online:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/12/30/business/media/document-cosbycomplaint.html
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https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2660605/BillCosbyCriminalComplaint.pdf
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/12/30/business/media/document-cosbycomplaint.html
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https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2660605/BillCosbyCriminalComplaint.pdf
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PureX
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We all know the answer to that, certainly.
Legally, yes.
Well, guilty pending appeal. Innocent ends the process.
Legally, yes, but I still believe the jury erred and that the civil trial ended with the correct verdict in the O.J. matter. Do you believe O.J. is innocent of the murder charges made against him? And if he admitted to the murders now would you still be obliged to believe he was innocent?
Therein lies the problem with reading in the legal verdict into a broader discourse.
As with your clicking "Submit Reply" on any given, a mistake involving the trivial.
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Do you know what party those Dixie Democrats shifted to? As for Wallace, he was ultimately a populist. Whichever way the wind blew strongly enough to fill his sails...
Being accused of something shouldn't be confused with being convicted of anything. Unlike Cosby, a whole party and a great deal of money went into pinning anything possible on Clinton. And yet...
The same reason people settle law suits where the outcome is in question and the expense and embarrassment make it equitable. Happens every day.
I don't confuse anecdotal evidence with a rule, though it can illustrate one. I know nuisance suits are sometimes settled as cost/benefit appraisals.
Else, too many people too invested in ruining him in every way possible for me to put much credence into what amounts to an effort to do any and everything possible to make Hillary's run difficult. The only reason this is coming up with regularity is the movers and shakers on the other side of it know what the numbers are telling them isn't good.
You guys? I'm not a democrat or a liberal, conservative nor republican, but I am a rationalist and that precludes me from accepting notions like property or taxes are theft or that either side of the political aisle is virtuous or trustworthy.
So when a sudden concern for examining Bill coincides with his wife's candidacy, I'm not naive enough to mistake the motives.
musterion
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Refute it, then.
Victim blaming's beneath contempt. End of story. There's nothing to "refute" here, just a demonstration of how unpleasant you are.
Happy new year.
Some people can be deceived and mislead when it comes to pills and drugs. There may very well be victims that agreed to take ludes or other drugs/alcohol not intending to be disabled. They trusted Cosby and he took advantage of that trust, also preying on vulnerable and isolated women.
The sheer number of victims and their stories can't all be consensual, and it seems whatever he was giving them left them unable to move or stop the advances. The details of the after stories are just as disturbing.
Sometimes in life you pay the piper in your last days, days reserved for respect and wisdom are now spent with hundreds of law suits and a rotten reputation. Bill was living a double life and one of them was monstrous.
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musterion
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Then they're still stupid.
You assume they're not aware of what a quaalude is supposed to do to you, or that they could not recognize them. Perhaps. Yet they still willingly swallowed strange pills. :nono:
Shouldna accepted the pills.
Clinton?
What about the TWO DOZEN or more victims that didn't agree to take any pills or drugs and were slipped a mickey. Who knows how many he sneaked a mickey to, even if a dozen agreed to "try" something they can still be victims of rape and assault. The majority of the victims had no clue of impending disability. Another interesting detail is that Bill apparently didn't take the drugs or mickeys himself.
Whether a few agreed to take a lude and party naked doesn't change the pattern of serial raping and sodomizing women.
musterion
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Calm down. As I said in an earlier post, I am referring only to those who willingly took pills from him. The others, if there are others, are a different matter.
In any case, his actions as an adulterer are in no way lessened or mitigated. Please do not try to imply that that is what I'm saying. It never has been. But you should be aware, if you aren't already, that quaaludes were much more popular in the seventies and early eighties with women than they were with men. They were popular for pretty much the same effects that they had on Cosby's victims. That's why I have trouble believing, at this point, that every woman who now accuses him of rape had no clue what was going to happen...at least with those who willingly took whatever he handed them. Women who slept around on quaaludes in the seventies did not consider it rape.
If Cosby handed them a lude and said it was Excedrin for their headache, he raped them and he should hang for it. If he handed them a quaalude and they knew it was a quaalude, or something with a similar effect, it wasn't rape.
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I wasn't worked up. I agree because even in the early 80s qualudes were being used. The women should have been taking speckled egg speeders.
I wasn't worked up. I agree because even in the early 80s qualudes were being used. The women should have been taking speckled egg speeders.
If one knowingly keeps dangerous company and knowingly engages in dangerous behavior one has willingly entered the pit of depravity. It appears that some of the accusations against Mr. Cosby cite events in which the victim was unknowing and not at all willing to participate in these behaviors.
In any case what kind of person wishes to have sex with a stuporous, unconscious person who has not given informed consent?
musterion
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Exactly right. But if the media is to be believed, every single one without exception was knocked out cold and raped, and had no idea Cosby was giving them something that would impair them. I don't believe it. Impaired sex was a really big thing with a lot of women back in the seventies. Cosby apparently never lost his taste for it.
I have no idea. Never have understood it.
musterion
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And alternative perspective on this whole thing, well worth reading and written by a woman no less. I think she nails it.
http://nypost.com/2015/07/16/is-bill-cosby-really-a-rapist-or-has-the-definition-just-changed/
http://nypost.com/2015/07/16/is-bill-cosby-really-a-rapist-or-has-the-definition-just-changed/
ClimateSanity
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He isn't serious. He is just playing whichever part gives him credit with the in crowd.