Clerk won't give gay couple marriage license

annabenedetti

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No, she didn't "know" till it happened. Irrelevant completely since it was not law when she took the position.

Yes, she did, she SAID she knew it could happen. I'm not going to argue with you when her words are right there.


:thumb: Fine with me if you like looking like a hypocrite.
:chuckle: The question was for chrys, not you. Sorry you're disappointed.
 

Foxfire

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A good example presented yesterday; if a Muslim man works at the DMV and refuses to give a woman a drivers license because it is his religious belief that she should not be able to drive, should he face consequences?

Or a Christian zealot with a strict interpretation of 1 Timothy 2:12 refusing to register women to vote.
 

annabenedetti

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It looks like she was aware of it when she took hers, too.

She was aware.

Davis is a devout Apostolic Christian, and she knew that should gay marriage become legal, she could not and would not sign her name on a same-sex marriage certificate.
“I would have to either make a decision to stand or I would have to buckle down and leave,” she said, pondering her choices. “And if I left, resigned or chose to retire, I would have no voice for God’s word.

 

Quetzal

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No, it was not a law when she took the position.
Here is what I was referring to:

Davis said that she knew that same-sex marriage would become an issue when she was elected to take the place of her mother — who had held the office for nearly 40 years — last November. “I would have to either make a decision to stand or I would have to buckle down and leave,” she said. “And if I left, resigned or chose to retire, I would have no voice for God’s word.” Source
To say she was unaware of this possibility isn't accurate.
 

Angel4Truth

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She was aware.

Davis is a devout Apostolic Christian, and she knew that should gay marriage become legal, she could not and would not sign her name on a same-sex marriage certificate.
“I would have to either make a decision to stand or I would have to buckle down and leave,” she said, pondering her choices. “And if I left, resigned or chose to retire, I would have no voice for God’s word.


Very good, see the "should it". Might and should it, does not equal will, or know anything as fact before it happens.

Now, if gay was against the law still, would you support them being locked in jail?
 

Quetzal

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Possibility doesnt = law. There is a possibility lots of laws will change in the future, do we act according to those, or what is law now?
Right, but as a government official we have to prepare for changes and be willing to accept those changes or resign.
 

annabenedetti

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Here is what I was referring to:


To say she was unaware of this possibility isn't accurate.


Absolutely. Before Davis took the position last fall, the Supreme Court had already refused to hear appeals to same sex marriage laws in a number of states (a victory for gay rights), which set the stage for the historic Supreme Court decision this year. She was aware of the decision that was likely to come down, and she planned accordingly.
 

Foxfire

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No, it was not a law when she took the position.

How is any public servant exempted from enforcing any new law? Are you suggesting that elected officials are empowered to decide for themselves which laws they will or will not recognize?

You sound like an Obama supporter! :D
 

Quetzal

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I disagree, if that were the case, no laws would ever get changed.
Why not? A police officer can no longer arrest a black person for sitting in the front of a bus. Just as these officials can no longer withhold marriage licenses to gay people.
 

annabenedetti

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How is any public servant exempted from enforcing any new law? Are you suggesting that elected officials are empowered to decide for themselves which laws they will or will not recognize?

You sound like an Obama supporter! :D


They're not exempt. They don't agree with the government, then they shouldn't work for the government.
 

Angel4Truth

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How is any public servant exempted from enforcing any new law? Are you suggesting that elected officials are empowered to decide for themselves which laws they will or will not recognize?

You sound like an Obama supporter! :D

There is a law about her religious beliefs too, the law is in conflict here.

It needs to be resolved. The supreme court is a coward for refusing to hear this that they created.
 
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