Apple7
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You merely quoted an English Trinitarian rendering.
Therefore, you proved that you are a Trinitarian.
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You merely quoted an English Trinitarian rendering.
Therefore, you proved that you are a Trinitarian.
keypurr
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How does that prove your point?
It only proves he was praying to his God.
God uses agents to do his work. The logos is God's original son. Second in command as God created all through this son. It/he was given the fullness of the Father.
drbrumley
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But what about His other son, you know, he one who actually died on the cross?
drbrumley
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[MENTION=3801]keypurr[/MENTION], what you are esposing is a load of crap and here's why....
First off, you say the logos is really the Christ. But by your own admission, this created thing didn't die, only that Jesus gave the logos up when Jesus said "unto you I commit my spirit."
Yet the scripture clearly says Jesus had to die for the saving of mankind.
First off, you say the logos is really the Christ. But by your own admission, this created thing didn't die, only that Jesus gave the logos up when Jesus said "unto you I commit my spirit."
Yet the scripture clearly says Jesus had to die for the saving of mankind.
I'm still waiting for Keypurr to answer several of my questions, the correct answers to which utterly destroy his false teachings.
The most important of which being:
If Jesus was only a man, how can he (according to Psalm 49:7-9,15) ransom his life for anyone other than Himself?
God's Truth
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There are three but the three are one and the same not separate and different as the trinity doctrine says.
God's Truth
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He said God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, yet, these three are one.
That is three Gods. You can't read or count.
Yeah, one God, Three Persons.
One WHAT, three WHOs.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?
You, GT, are one WHAT and one WHO.
GOD is one WHAT and three WHOs.
Quit adding to scripture, heretic. It never says "and the same."
It says "the three are one".
keypurr
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Do you seriously believe that God can die?
The MAN who died was given the logos to bring light to us, Jesus was sent to die for our sins for he was pure. And that is why God provided a sinless body to hold the true son that he SENT to dwell and speak through to bring understanding to mankind. That which is spirit became flesh just as his God sent him to do.
Believe in the words of your Lord when he speaks of his God and creator. John 17:3
Doc, the logos is not Jesus, the logos was IN Jesus, speaking through him. The logos is a created FORM of God, not God the Son. I have tried my best to show on TOL what I see in scripture but now they will not allow me to express my point of view. I gave arguments that management disapproved of becauseit destroyed their traditions, but it is truth.
keypurr
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The logos is the EXPRESS IMAGE of Heb 1:3, a created spirit, the exact image of his spirit Father.
I told you that I have not finished my study on the spirit that left Jesus at his death. Consider that the spirit son may not be the same spirit that Jesus was born with because Jesus received the POWER of the logos at his anointing, Acts 10:38.
keypurr
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Keep in mind that Christ means the anointed one of God.
drbrumley
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Why don't you ask HIM that?
God the father can't die, for sure...
God took on the form of man, that includes all the trappings (joy, sorrow, hungry, cold, hot etc...)
I cannot help it if you reject that.
God's Truth
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I am one person made alive by my one spirit.
You make God three different separate persons with one of the persons with his own spirit.
drbrumley
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Right, and Jesus was the anointed one...
God's Truth
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One means the same. You have a lot of nerve calling me a heretic saying I add to the scriptures when you say God the Son. Show the scripture that says God the Son.
keypurr
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Yep, and he was the ONLY ONE ever anointed with the logos.
So a husband and wife becoming "one" means they are now the same person?
Your logic sucks.
drbrumley
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Correction, he is the logos..