:nono: As with A4T, it isn't what I said either. I don't believe in loss of salvation, EE :nono: Neither does A4T. You seem to be emoting more than listening today, or perhaps two or all three of us aren't as clear as was intended. I'll try.
A thorn isn't a sin. Galatians 6:11, likely eyesight. God wants us healthy but some humility is good for us.
A4T isn't a Calvinist
My Scripture understanding of this is certainly Calvinist. Careful not to throw all Calvinism out lest you stop trusting in the Salvation of our Lord and Savior altogether. Theology isn't like Politics, we shouldn't be tossing everyone out of the church. I certainly don't do this with MAD or Arminians. We share a lot of truths. I try to err on the side of Grace wherever I can.
So do you, you missed the point, I think and are reading salvation loss where absolutely none exists in my posts. All I said is: If they are His trusting Him --> discipline and deliverance, one way or the other. He is gracious and pulling for us. If they don't belong to us, then that is their need and calling upon the Lord is the answer. I've said nothing else.
:nono: Not at all, we haven't. Please reread it all, I was very careful and am very careful talking about sin and a believer's life. You will never hear me say that 'unsaved' is the mark whereby we know if one is saved. I only said that it is true of some sinners, remember? IOW, if you see someone in a sin, the Christian, you can encourage and pray for and cry for. The nonChristian, he/she first needs their sins forgiven then you are back to encouraging them in their walk and praying for them. In a nutshell, we either evangelize the lost, or encourage a brother or sister. I do apologize for not making this incredibly clear, but it was my endeavor to do so in trying to put what you were saying and Ang was saying, together. I highly suspect, this is what she was saying as well. I'd have to ask further about any discrepancy. Whatever stance I am, I don't think it Calvinist specific that another cannot be blessed. :idunno: Still trying to serve, -Lon