(regarding antiChristian claim about public school employees)
Barbarian observes:
I know quite a number of committed Christians who work for various public school systems. And I must say, they are generally much better imitations of Christ than you have so far shown us.
He left us specific instructions. It's in a book called the "Bible." Read it and learn.
Barbarian observes:
If that's your attempt to follow Him, I would have to say that you don't have a clue about Him. He didn't hide from the world; He went out into it and let His light shine in the darkness. This is one of the reasons why Christians don't hide from the world.
The Bible does not tell us to rebell against the government, but in this case, it's a school board elected by the community. If you don't like the values in your community, why would you live there?
Barbarian observes:
If you haven't trained them by school age, you are indeed "throwing them to the wolves", even if you keep them home.
Mine were. They were around all sorts of people, and they remained faithful to Him.
Sorry about your kids. I did say that you had to raise them right, if you were going to make them able to resist the world.
Barbarian observes:
And you don't have to be afraid of it. Study after study shows that one's children, for all the rebellion they show still look to parents for their assumptions and beliefs. Even if they go to public school.
Barbarian observes:
If their parents haven't given them adequate grounding in God and His plans for us. The figure is way too high, but if you've done a poor job then your kids might reject your beliefs. Mine didn't.
"Constant?" Nope. Just regularly. That's all it takes. You only need to be concerned if you neglected to do that.
Sounds like you're more than a little paranoid about the goverment. I think the government is usually the problem, but in this case, they aren't competent enough to win out over good parenting. Bad parenting, maybe.
He flirted with the idea. Now he's strong in the Lord. Many other great Christians have had that experience.
We know mine were, because they are all Christians. It's yours we don't know about, yet.
Barbarian observes:
You give the opposite impression. You seem to think your beliefs are too fragile to be allowed outside in the sun.
Sounds like you're not very secure in what you believe, then.
You think adults in public school try to make kids into atheists? That's a truly crazy idea.
Barbarian observes:
My kids had a robust Christian faith, which wasn't shaken when they met others who had weak faith or none at all. I feel sorry for those who didn't raise their kids that way.
Some were. But they lost out to God. I hope, against all the evidence, He'll keep your kids in His fold.
Barbarian observes:
They are orthodox trinitarian Christians. You're not the only person who claims we're "muddled." But you're the first one who claims to be a Christian.
Christians have been called worse than "muddled." That's your best attempt at defaming us?
Barbarian on raising children.
I believe in making them wolf-proof. Works better. Unless you plan on keeping them locked in the basement for life. If they aren't ready to be in public by age 5, you blew it.
Yep. Worked just fine. They all have their Christian faith.
You seem deeply offended that they were stronger than you think your kids are. Did you know that scripture has something to say about this?
Proverbs 22:6 Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it.
Follow God, not your own desires, and it will work out right.
Barbarian observes:
I wish it was. Every year we read about people who think their kids are going to be corrupted by the world, and lock them in the house.
Unfortunately, it's literally true in many cases.
Look, you're embarassed and upset, and calling names. That won't make things better for you. If you read the Bible, do the right thing by your kids, and try to make your life an imitation of Christ, it will all work out right.
Getting angry and verbally abusive won't help. Think about it and try a little harder.
Barbarian observes:
I know quite a number of committed Christians who work for various public school systems. And I must say, they are generally much better imitations of Christ than you have so far shown us.
That's because you don't know Christ very well.
You don't know who is imitating Him better or not.
He left us specific instructions. It's in a book called the "Bible." Read it and learn.
Barbarian observes:
If that's your attempt to follow Him, I would have to say that you don't have a clue about Him. He didn't hide from the world; He went out into it and let His light shine in the darkness. This is one of the reasons why Christians don't hide from the world.
Christ would have been appalled at Christians sending their children to be indoctrinated in whatever the gov't tried to mold them as.
The Bible does not tell us to rebell against the government, but in this case, it's a school board elected by the community. If you don't like the values in your community, why would you live there?
Barbarian observes:
If you haven't trained them by school age, you are indeed "throwing them to the wolves", even if you keep them home.
You think kids can be strong in their convictions by 5 years old?
Mine were. They were around all sorts of people, and they remained faithful to Him.
You really are an idiot.
Sorry about your kids. I did say that you had to raise them right, if you were going to make them able to resist the world.
Barbarian observes:
And you don't have to be afraid of it. Study after study shows that one's children, for all the rebellion they show still look to parents for their assumptions and beliefs. Even if they go to public school.
And that's why they leave the church over 80% of the time after high school?
Barbarian observes:
If their parents haven't given them adequate grounding in God and His plans for us. The figure is way too high, but if you've done a poor job then your kids might reject your beliefs. Mine didn't.
Thanks for admitting that without the parent's constant attention, the kids will turn from them.
"Constant?" Nope. Just regularly. That's all it takes. You only need to be concerned if you neglected to do that.
That's all we need to know about what direction this gov't wants to take your kids in.
Sounds like you're more than a little paranoid about the goverment. I think the government is usually the problem, but in this case, they aren't competent enough to win out over good parenting. Bad parenting, maybe.
I noticed you mentioned that one of your children turned atheist for a while.
He flirted with the idea. Now he's strong in the Lord. Many other great Christians have had that experience.
My kids won't even do that. Your kids were not as grounded as you thought they were.
We know mine were, because they are all Christians. It's yours we don't know about, yet.
Barbarian observes:
You give the opposite impression. You seem to think your beliefs are too fragile to be allowed outside in the sun.
I take my beliefs to the public all the time. My kids will do the same when they are ready.
Sounds like you're not very secure in what you believe, then.
Yes, children are not strong enough to battle with adults and win. I don't know where you get the idea they are.
You think adults in public school try to make kids into atheists? That's a truly crazy idea.
Barbarian observes:
My kids had a robust Christian faith, which wasn't shaken when they met others who had weak faith or none at all. I feel sorry for those who didn't raise their kids that way.
Except when they got to college, right? And you think the professors in college were more intent on molding your kids in a way you did not want more than grade-school teachers?
Some were. But they lost out to God. I hope, against all the evidence, He'll keep your kids in His fold.
Barbarian observes:
They are orthodox trinitarian Christians. You're not the only person who claims we're "muddled." But you're the first one who claims to be a Christian.
Well, I'm glad finally someone loved you enough to warn you about your muddled beliefs.
Christians have been called worse than "muddled." That's your best attempt at defaming us?
Barbarian on raising children.
I believe in making them wolf-proof. Works better. Unless you plan on keeping them locked in the basement for life. If they aren't ready to be in public by age 5, you blew it.
Age 5.
Yep. Worked just fine. They all have their Christian faith.
You're not just an idiot, you are cruel as well.
You seem deeply offended that they were stronger than you think your kids are. Did you know that scripture has something to say about this?
Proverbs 22:6 Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it.
Follow God, not your own desires, and it will work out right.
BTW, you make nice use of the figure "locked in the basement".
Barbarian observes:
I wish it was. Every year we read about people who think their kids are going to be corrupted by the world, and lock them in the house.
This statement doesn't include at least 1 figure of speech?
Unfortunately, it's literally true in many cases.
Look, you're embarassed and upset, and calling names. That won't make things better for you. If you read the Bible, do the right thing by your kids, and try to make your life an imitation of Christ, it will all work out right.
Getting angry and verbally abusive won't help. Think about it and try a little harder.