British socialist death panel to "allow" baby to die, despite parents' wishes

[Lon]

Well it's speaking primarily of the woman's well being. You also have to think about the fact that she could always birth another by a man who can impregnate her- the mortality rate of newborns were ridiculous back then and so you wouldnt kill a healthy man over a frankly expendable thing.

It's harsh- but it's also true.

When people have a preconceived notion, they are going to naturally interpret scripture in such a way.

I disagree, and always have. It was clear to me, even back in high school. Now that I've been given tools for studying a thing out? I'm more convinced than ever. The eye-for-eye applied to the child as well. They HAD to wait and see. The scripture reads exactly that way: Exo 21:22 “When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman's husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine.
Exo 21:23 But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life,
Exo 21:24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
Exo 21:25 burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Why? Because scripture makes it CLEAR this is the case of a "pregnant" woman. It is making a very specific point about the life of the unborn. Read it again, it is clear. -Lon

 

[musterion]

Don't feed the aspie.

 

[fool]

Hardly a case of 'leftist death panels' then. It's a tragic case and shouldn't be used for asinine political 'point scoring'.

It's precisely a case of death panels.

 

[fool]

If it cannot be saved...........

You don't know that.

 

[Greg Jennings]

Because you remember feeling pain and feeling hungry when you were a baby?

Am I to understand that you disagree that babies feel pain and hunger?

 

[Greg Jennings]

You don't know that.

Thus the "if". I defer to professionals in their own fields

 

[Arthur Brain]

Am I to understand that you disagree that babies feel pain and hunger?

:think:

 

[Angel4Truth]

Am I to understand that you disagree that babies feel pain and hunger?

Not unless english is your second language since thats not what he said.

 

[ok doser]

English can be hard for new learners

And those suffering from ARD

And those pretending to be lawyers

 

[Angel4Truth]

English can be hard for new learners

And those suffering from ARD

And those pretending to be lawyers

ARD?

 

[ok doser]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol-related_dementia


Aka Artie's disease

 

[Arthur Brain]

ARD?

In his usual, inimitable 'style' he's referring to 'alcohol related dementia'. His obsession with this ties in with his obsession with a guy who's obviously well educated in law, is a lawyer and had credentials verified on here no less.

Go figure.

 

[Greg Jennings]

Not unless english is your second language since thats not what he said.

Feel free to make his point more clear for me

 

[Angel4Truth]

Feel free to make his point more clear for me

Do you remember being a baby? How hard is that to understand for you?

 

[musterion]

You don't know that.

Notice he said "it"? There's the first step of all communist conquests: dehumanization. Reduce someone from human to "expendable," "useless eater," "tissue," etc, and eventually you can do whatever you like with them.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Notice he said "it"? There's the first step of all communist conquests: dehumanization. Reduce someone from human to "expendable," "useless eater," "tissue," etc, and eventually you can do whatever you like with them.

Hitler wanted to rid the world of the weak, crippled, sick etc. too.

 

[musterion]

About 10 years ago a friend back in Ohio was a social studies teacher. He had a big map showing historical genocides around the world (it went up to Rwanda, I think, it was several years old) but in the sidebar listed the usual steps that have led to genocides, allowing future genocides to be predicted with reasonable accuracy. One of the early signs was mass dehumanization of a target group.

Ah, here's the old version of it...

Their new version is here,

http://www.genocidewatch.com/ten-stages-of-genocide-world-map

 

[musterion]

I'd forgotten it's somewhat leftist...the U.S. is still up for accusations of historical genocides including slavery, but Germany is not highlighted for WWII, nor is Russia for Stalin's purges nor Red China for Mao's. Cambodia isn't listed for Pol Pot, etc. Britain's imperialism in India isn't listed. The map is not consistent.

 

[Angel4Truth]

I'd forgotten it's somewhat leftist...the U.S. is still up for accusations of historical genocides but Germany is not highlighted for WWII, nor is Russia for Stalin's purges nor Red China for Mao's. Cambodia isn't listed for Pol Pot, etc. It's not consistent.

Thats because genocide is ok if the group is undesirable to the leftist.

 

[User Name]

Hitler wanted to rid the world of the weak, crippled, sick etc. too.

So you are in favor of socialized medicine then?

Who do you expect will pay for all of this expensive medical care?