It seems like Samie likes to display his ability to "smart off" to other posters? Why does Samie do that? I wonder?
Believing: Is it done BEFORE or AFTER one is in Christ?
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It seems like Samie likes to display his ability to "smart off" to other posters? Why does Samie do that? I wonder?
Samie doesn't seem to know that, Jesus was presenting "The Kingdom Gospel" to the lost sheep of the House of Israel? I think Samie doesn't know how to "Rightly Divide" the written word of God. I wonder why? Could ignorance be his reason? I wonder?
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Jesus is Lord over ALL.
Because your spiritual eyes are always crossed, did you notice that, GM?
I wonder if GM knows he is spiritually hallucinating.
To wake you up from your spiritual stupor, GM.
Why does Samie think that's humorous? I wonder?
Why does Samie think he's an excellent communicator? I wonder?
Yes, the one you don't know. The one you know is wrong.
Poor GM. He believes Jesus did not come for him. No wonder his spiritual eyes are crossed.
GM & musterion's gospel: People are not saved unless they believe.
With that gospel the unsaved can NEVER be saved, here's why:
If one is not saved, he is NOT in Christ. If one is not in Christ, he cannot bear fruit. If he cannot bear fruit, he cannot have faith because faith is fruit of the Spirit. If he cannot have faith, he cannot believe because faith is needed to believe. If he cannot believe, then according to the false gospel of GM & m, he cannot be saved.
Yet they persist in preaching the gospel that saves no one.
With that gospel the unsaved can NEVER be saved, here's why:
If one is not saved, he is NOT in Christ. If one is not in Christ, he cannot bear fruit. If he cannot bear fruit, he cannot have faith because faith is fruit of the Spirit. If he cannot have faith, he cannot believe because faith is needed to believe. If he cannot believe, then according to the false gospel of GM & m, he cannot be saved.
Yet they persist in preaching the gospel that saves no one.
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You have to do what Jesus says to get in Jesus.
You have to have living faith; living faith is faith with right action.
Mark 16:16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
Did you read that?
Whoever believes will be saved, not is already saved.
John 8:24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins."
Did you read that?
Do you think Jesus is sadistic? It is sadistic to tell someone that they will die in their sins if they do not believe if they cannot ever believe unless he saves them first.
Hebrews 3:19 So we see that they were not able to enter, because of their unbelief.
Did you read that scripture?
They could not ENTER because their unbelief---NOT they could not believe because they did not enter!
Romans 11:23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
Did you read that scriptures?
How will they be grafted in if they do not persist in unbelief if it is as you say when you say they CAN'T believe until they are ALREADY grafted in?
Read this scripture, it says someone CAN BELIEVE IN VAIN. Believing in vain means you believe but for nothing because you still are not saved.
1 Corinthians 15:2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
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Another preacher of a false gospel. Here's why.
According to you, unless one does what Jesus says, he cannot get in Jesus. If one is NOT in Jesus, he can do NOTHING. If he can do NOTHING, he can not do what Jesus says and he is back to square one.
Your false gospel saves no one.
Repent or perish. Luke 13:3, 5.
Yeah, chuckle and keep on preaching your false gospel that saves no one. :carryon:
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Are you just going to ignore all those scriptures I gave proving you wrong?
Your false gospel saves no one.
How in the world do you think you telling people if you are not saved it is because you can't be saved, vs my saying if you want to be saved do what Jesus says?
Repent is for those who want to get saved and for those who want to stay saved.
You do not understand what Jesus is saying in John 15:5.
"I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing."
Jesus is not speaking about those not yet in him, he is speaking about staying in him.
Jesus is letting them know if they leave him they will be condemned.
That does NOT mean that those who want to be saved cannot believe!
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Nope. I tell people they are born in Christ, hence born already saved. They can then believe. If they refuse to believe, then they are overcome of the evil of unbelief. Christ will blot their names from the book of life and they'll end up in the lake of fire.
Again, that's false gospel, as I have shown. Here again:
According to you, unless one does what Jesus says, he cannot get in Jesus. If one is NOT in Jesus, he can do NOTHING. If he can do NOTHING, he can not do what Jesus says and he is back to square one.
Your false gospel saves no one.
To remain in Jesus one has to get in Jesus, FIRST and FOREMOST.
Your gospel on how to get in Jesus is false.