31 Reasons To Reject The Jab

ok doser

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there is a 2 week window of immune suppression post vaccination. it roughly doubled the base rate chance of healthy people getting covid back before even delta. (it’s likely far worse now given omicron and OAS issues) this has been demonstrated in trials.

this gets not only covered up, but willfully misattributed. i wrote THIS on it some time back. it’s pretty simple.

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this is the essence of bayes. it’s how you measure and aggregate real relative risk and outcome. but the definition of “vaxxed” as “dose 2 +14 days” which breaks this utterly.

it attributes the risk of running across the field to “staying in the foxhole.”

if you get sick or hospitalized or die in that period, you get called “unvaxxed.” the increased risk you face due to immunosuppression should be associated with vaccination. instead, it gets attributed to lack of vaccination.

this is frightfully dishonest.

it’s also frighteningly effective if you seek to lie about efficacy.
Alberta bound and gagged?
 

musterion

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Someone I know (fairly young but obese yet proudly fully jabbed) has been off work for the last 2 weeks due to coof...hospitalized for pneumonia, etc. Pretty serious.

Yesterday I heard this person will be out next week as well because she is now immunocompromised.
 

Omniskeptical

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Trump supports socialist economic policies and murdering babies before they are born, eh? What's pathetic is that @ok doser, who is a Trump supporter, gave that post a "thumbs up".
If you had a daughter who was pregnant and rich, and the guy poor, you would want your daughter to save face by getting an abortion. I don't believe you are pro-life.
 

Jefferson

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Natural immunity more potent than vaccines during US Delta wave

During America's last surge of the coronavirus driven by the Delta variant, people who were unvaccinated but survived Covid were better protected than those who were vaccinated and not previously infected, a new study said Wednesday.

The finding is the latest to weigh in on a debate on the relative strengths of natural versus vaccine-acquired immunity against SARS-CoV-2, but comes this time with the imprimatur of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
 

Omniskeptical

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While I am skeptical of masks, and of Fauci; I don't believe there is developed immunity, and airborne illness except if airborne illness is Anthrax bombs. Vaccines are snake oil.
 

Arial

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Natural immunity more potent than vaccines during US Delta wave

During America's last surge of the coronavirus driven by the Delta variant, people who were unvaccinated but survived Covid were better protected than those who were vaccinated and not previously infected, a new study said Wednesday.

The finding is the latest to weigh in on a debate on the relative strengths of natural versus vaccine-acquired immunity against SARS-CoV-2, but comes this time with the imprimatur of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
My younger sister had covid, in ICU nearly died (unvaccinated), but then praise and all the glory to God, she rallied almost over night. Still in what will be a long recovery getting her strength back and healing her lungs, but at home. She refused the ventilator (another thank God) but was on cpap to keep her oxygen levels up. Before this, she was adamantly not going to get vaccinated. Early on in the experience her fear of covid became so great that she was certain she would get vaccinated. As the fear abates, so does her wanting the vaccine. I too had covid, but it was no more than an annoyance of not feeling good, and fear of almost losing my sister made me begin to rethink my stance on the vaccine, though I got over it too.

I tell this "story" here because I would like to know if anyone has trustworthy information on statistics of any benefit or negative on people who recover from covid and then get vaccinated.
 

marke

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My younger sister had covid, in ICU nearly died (unvaccinated), but then praise and all the glory to God, she rallied almost over night. Still in what will be a long recovery getting her strength back and healing her lungs, but at home. She refused the ventilator (another thank God) but was on cpap to keep her oxygen levels up. Before this, she was adamantly not going to get vaccinated. Early on in the experience her fear of covid became so great that she was certain she would get vaccinated. As the fear abates, so does her wanting the vaccine. I too had covid, but it was no more than an annoyance of not feeling good, and fear of almost losing my sister made me begin to rethink my stance on the vaccine, though I got over it too.

I tell this "story" here because I would like to know if anyone has trustworthy information on statistics of any benefit or negative on people who recover from covid and then get vaccinated.
My wife and I both got covid. I was sicker than my wife but neither of us went to the hospital. However, after about a week or ten days, I finally went to the local clinic to get something for my cough and they tested me for covid and gave me medicine for pneumonia. Two days later they told me I had covid but by then I was nearly cured of my symptoms, likely because the medicine cured me of pneumonia. My wife and I remain unvaccinated.

My healthy daughter and son-in-law got the vaccine so they could travel to Taiwan but they got sick and are now stuck at home recovering. I don't know what their sickness is but I am tempted to think it might be related to the covid jab since it occurred so soon after they got jabbed.

A friend of mine did not get vaccinated but got covid and died this week.
 
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