10 Vaccines That Saved The World

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You did "get the measles." That was a live, attenuated measles virus they injected into you. Because you are gullible and superstitious you were tricked into believing you've never had the measles and the vaccine prevented infection.

Why didn't the measles vaccine cause me to break out into having the full-fledged measles disease?
 

elohiym

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You mean that vaccines cause people to become stupider and therefore more likely to use tobacco products and drink alcoholic beverages?

No, I mean that a person with a psychological disturbance may display those behaviors and live that lifestyle. A vaccine ingredient, such as alumium, may cause mitocondrial dysfunction and consequently the psychological disturbance.
 

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No, I mean that a person with a psychological disturbance may display those behaviors and live that lifestyle. A vaccine ingredient, such as alumium, may cause mitocondrial dysfunction and consequently the psychological disturbance.

That's a lot of maybe's. If vaccines are so dangerous, shouldn't the negative consequences be definite?
 

elohiym

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Why didn't the measles vaccine cause me to break out into having the full-fledged measles disease?

The vaccine virus is weakened by attenuation, but even a wild virus infection could be asymptomatic or have few, mild symptoms. For some people, the vaccine gave them a full blown case of the measles, and then they spread it to others; that happened to one of the moderators on this forum (Ebenz).
 

elohiym

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That's a lot of maybe's. If vaccines are so dangerous, shouldn't the negative consequences be definite?

I was just trying to show you that your conclusion vaccinations are not involved in lifestyle choices of those service men and women isn't necessarily true. I only have to give you maybes since you offer no definite causes for those behaviors or lifestyles.
 

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I was just trying to show you that your conclusion vaccinations are not involved in lifestyle choices of those service men and women isn't necessarily true. I only have to give you maybes since you offer no definite causes for those behaviors or lifestyles.

So you're claiming that vaccines are dangerous because people are more likely to smoke and drink after they've had vaccinations?
 

ClimateSanity

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There is scarce testing on people with vaccinations. I don't know of any large scale study of vaccinated vs non vaccinated people with regard to myriads of various illnesses and even positive attributes. How can we say they no effect whatsoever?
 

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There is scarce testing on people with vaccinations. I don't know of any large scale study of vaccinated vs non vaccinated people with regard to myriads of various illnesses and even positive attributes. How can we say they no effect whatsoever?

I'm pretty sure that studies have been done on the ability of vaccines to immunize people from contracting diseases, so that's one positive attribute.
 

ClimateSanity

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I'm pretty sure that studies have been done on the ability of vaccines to immunize people from contracting diseases, so that's one positive attribute.

But does that attribute outweigh all the possible negative outcomes? Shouldn't people at least have a choice?
 

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THERE ARE CHILDREN'S VACCINES;
THERE IS AUTISM IN CHILDREN.

COULD THERE BE A LINK?


1.Scientists began experimenting and offering theories, the way science does when it follows the Scientific Method.

2.The study or studies were published for peer and public review.

3.They were found to be in error.

WHAT'S THE PROBLEM ???
 

Tyrathca

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Have you watched this video yet?

Dr Tetyana Obukhanych - Do vaccines give you immunity?


After watching that, you might feel the same way about measles vaccine as you do about the flu vaccine.

I have to wonder Elo if YOU have actually watched it (or at least paid attention beyond "says bad things about vaccines")?

If you have you should know that within the FIRST FIVE MINUTES it disagrees with this post of yours...
There were two graphs, one for incidence and one for mortality. The rate of mortality had been decreasing long before measles vaccination.
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As for incidence of measles, show me a graph that accounts for the increase of fifty million people in the U.S. population between 1945 and 1963. Then, if that doesn't show a downward trend, we can discuss the historical correlation between measles incidence and economic boom and bust cycles or the fact that people were intentionally getting measles infections to gain life-long immunity. You don't know what the situation would look like if people used common sense, evidence-based preventative measures like quarantine. As I've pointed out several times, people back then considered measles a mild, harmless infection, else they wouldn't have taken their kids to measles parties.
 

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Aluminum is used in vaccines as an adjuvant. An adjuvant is vaccine component that boosts the immune response to the vaccine. Adjuvants allow for lesser quantities of the vaccine and fewer doses. The adjuvant effects of aluminum were discovered in 1926. Aluminum adjuvants are used in vaccines such as hepatitis A, hepatitis B, diphtheria-tetanus-containing vaccines, Haemophilus influenzae type b, and pneumococcal vaccines, but they are not used in the live, viral vaccines, such as measles, mumps, rubella, varicella and rotavirus.

Vaccines containing adjuvants are tested extensively in clinical trials before being licensed. Aluminum salts and a detoxified bacterial component called monophosphoryl lipid A are the only materials that can be used as adjuvants in the United States. The quantities of aluminum present in vaccines are low and are regulated by the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER).

The aluminum contained in vaccines is similar to that found in a liter (about 1 quart or 32 fluid ounces) of infant formula. While infants receive about 4.4 milligrams* of aluminum in the first six months of life from vaccines, they receive more than that in their diet. Breast-fed infants ingest about 7 milligrams, formula-fed infants ingest about 38 milligrams, and infants who are fed soy formula ingest almost 117 milligrams of aluminum during the first six months of life.

*Note: One milligram is one-thousandth of a gram. One gram is the weight of one-fifth of a teaspoon of water.

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Tyrathca

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No, I mean that a person with a psychological disturbance may display those behaviors and live that lifestyle. A vaccine ingredient, such as alumium, may cause mitocondrial dysfunction and consequently the psychological disturbance.

Hmmmm maybe mobile phones do that too and that's why everyone keeps posting selfies and belfies? *throws away phone and puts on tin foil hat*
 

brewmama

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I have to wonder Elo if YOU have actually watched it (or at least paid attention beyond "says bad things about vaccines")?

If you have you should know that within the FIRST FIVE MINUTES it disagrees with this post of yours...

How so? Mortality HAD dramatically decreased before immunization began.
 

brewmama

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Of course not, I can't be bothered with that nonsense. Gary Null is a quack.

I (and everyone I know of) have had the full schedule of immunizations. We don't have any ill effects from having gotten them, so I know from personal experience that your claim that vaccines are somehow dangerous is false. You are incapable of stating exactly how vaccines are harmful, so clearly you have no case against it other than your own religious superstitions.

And plenty of people smoke a lot of cigarettes with no ill effects. Does this mean they aren't dangerous?
 

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Why don't you just read the possible side effects on the vaccine insert instead on repeating this question that has been answered many times?

Why don't you post them?

And plenty of people smoke a lot of cigarettes with no ill effects. Does this mean they aren't dangerous?

I'm not sure how getting vaccinations is in any way comparable with smoking cigarettes. Vaccinations are known to increase immunity to disease, whereas smoking cigarettes is known to increase disease rates.
 
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