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It wouldn't even be that complicated. If the flat earth model is accurate then the coast of Antarctica should curve around in one direction relative to the ship while on a spherical Earth it would curve around in the opposite direction. So, if a ship has the coast of Antarctica to its Port side...

In regards to the size of Antarctica on the flat Earth vs a globe, the flat earth folks might get away with suggesting that no measurement of Antarctica has been made. They can call any such measurements fraudulent or whatever because no one who discusses this (virtually) has been to Antarctica...

That's almost got it. It isn't "those who measured Antarctica" it's "those who claim to have measured Antarctica". In other words, they deny that any such measurement has ever been made or even that it could be made. Poe's Law is truly in full effect here.

Well, it didn't take long for me to confirm that atmospheric refraction does indeed play a very significant role when performing such experiments... Effect of atmospheric refraction If the Earth were an airless world like the Moon, the above calculations would be accurate. However, Earth has an...

While I haven't yet confirmed this, I really think that atmospheric refraction has to be accounted for, which the video does not do. Also, the video sort of testifies against its own premise. If the Earth was flat, shouldn't he have been able to video the entire bridge pillar all the way to the...

I'm out of time for today. I want to know about how the atmosphere would interfere with my lake experiment. My intution says that it can be ignored because the light beam doesn't enter or leave the atmosphere throughout the experiment and so it seems like the light should travel in a straight...

You're absolutely right! My bad! I made an error thinking that the fall away is linear. It is, in fact, geometric. The curvature of the earth is 7.98 inches per mile SQUARED! So the first mile is 8 inches, the second mile would be 32 inches, the third would be 72 inches and so on. If 3 miles...

Beer AFTER!!! Not before! :cheers:

I've mentioned this once before but since we're talking about measuring the curvature of the Earth I thought I'd bring it up again. A really good experiment to measure the curvature of the Earth, that anyone could do with minimal expense is this... Find a lake. Pretty much any lake will do but...

Exactly! It gets way worse when you realize that minuscule number is nine times bigger than the real number!

There are at least two things wrong with this thought experiment. 1. Roads are built by people who can introduce more flatness than is there naturally. Therefore roads are not the best things to use for such an experiment. It would be better to use something we know is "level" such as the...

This is simply false. First of all, the vasy majority of land based projected are on a scale too small to worry about the curvature of the Earth. But on large scale surveys, corrections are made for the curvature of the earth. Such corrections are more noticable the further north you go. On...

I get that but it wouldn't hurt for you to modify your arguments based on the arguments I make. You should keep a scorecard. It would be somewhere in the neighborhood of :Clete: 230 :devil: 0 You haven't even established that it was any influence, must less an important one. My bet is that his...

I'm very glad you've brought up Aristotle and Plato because it gives me an opportunity to make one of my recent points in a way that I'm hoping will reach you. You and I reject the doctrine of Immutability and other related doctrines. We often make arguments that have to do with the fact that...

All of which have been refuted on this thread. Well, not "ALL"! There seems to be an infinite number is irrationalities these folks can come up with. That one video has two hundred arguments that are all 100% wrong! I don't even know how you pull that off! I mean how can you make 200 false...

I cannot believe that you are really this incapable of following my argument. I didn't say that you were actually calling his geometry into question! You are not making the argument that you appearant think your are making. You are saying his cosmology is wrong but the only reason you gave for...

Excellent point! Why not say that the Earth isn't actually here at all? I've seen some suggest that the moon doesn't exist. That it's a hologram or something. They cite the fact that there are no photographs of the moon prior to 1950 or something as proof. Never mind the countless paintings...

From what I've read, and I'm sure there is varied opinions on this but basically their point is that the only explanation for the Earth, as it exists (i.e. flat) is God. In other words, they not only don't need to explain the mechanics of it, the lack of explanation is the point! If the world is...

Do you see what I mean! This is a bunch of crap, David! You begged me to debate this. BEGGED ME! So I do and you flatly IGNORE arguments that take me hours to write up and to edit. Rather than responding to arguments, all you do is find more horse manure to present that I'm supposed to spend...

Dave, you've gotta start reading more carefully. I didn't make that argument, YOU DID! Your argument was basically that because Pythagoras was a pagan, his cosmology is false. But you made no rational connection between the premise (paganism) and the conclusion (false cosmology). Therefore, the...