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That was a cool episode of a very cool show but it's not as counter-intuitive as you might think. If one car (C) is smashed against a solid wall at speed S, then a certain amount of total damage (D) is created (C*S = D). Damage per car: (D/C = X) If one car (C) is smashed against a solid wall...

Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave. The force we call gravity exists, whether you like it or not. The force itself is quite well understood even if it's cause isn't. There have been calculations done that tell you precisely how fast the Earth would have to spin to counteract the force of gravity...

No, Dave. The way you debunk the notion that water would have to run up hill in order for it to flow north is to simply state the notion to anyone who isn't stupid. The way you debunk the idea the surveyors don't take the curvature is the Earth into account is to give counter examples where the...

Dave, the videos you've posted too are all a bunch of irrational nonsense. I spent considerable time debunking the first couple of dozen, so called "arguments" from that video with 300 reasons to believe in a flat Earth. All three hundred of them are ridiculous! How is it even possible to make a...

"The Bumpy but Mostly Flatish Earth Society" doesn't roll off the tongue very nicely, does it?

He's just making the arguments, Michael. He hasn't gone as far over the edge as it seems! (Flat earth - over the edge - see what I did there?) :chuckle:

There is no contradiction. While it is more accurate to call it an oblate spheroid, the terms can be used interchangeably on a practical level because the oblateness is very slight. The Earth is almost perfectly round and, in fact, is close enough to perfectly round that it is perfectly...

If you limit yourself to that then I doubt you'll ever be convinced. The Earth is, in fact, a very large sphere and your senses are not capable of directly sensing curvature (or anything else) on that scale. You're like the ant that insists that the entire world consists of his tunnels and a 300...

It couldn't be faked if they wanted to fake it for one thing but you're the one making the claim that it's faked. The burden of proof is on you.

Not even worth responding to. "Your experience"? Really?

Yes, in fact, they are proofs, Dave. People have been building things, taking the curvature of the Earth into account for centuries. Surveyors take both the Earth's curvature and atmospheric refraction into account all the time and have done so for centuries. They aren't trying to trick everyone...

It does mean exactly that! You see it twice but it is not in two locations at once, therefore, one of those images is of a car that is somewhere other than where you are seeing it at. The fact that atmospheric lensing is negligible for normal use in many situations does not imply that it does...

You (Mr. Flat Earther) cannot mean this! Mirages and other atmsopheric aberrations are observed every day all over the world by nearly everyone. Saying it doesn't make it so. Atmospheric refraction is an easily observed and very well understood phenominon. Every time the sun sets you see it...

I don't need to know anything about sailing! Look, Antarctica only has about 11,000 miles of shoreline. There is, therefore, no way to sail around it and come up with a 60,000-mile journey. Either Cook's data is wrong or you are being lied too. JudgeRightly's link I think goes a long way toward...

Yes, really.

I answered this question directly. It's a false dichotomy. Every object you see is seen with light that has been refracted or reflected by the atmosphere. The question isn't whether it's been refracted, it's how much. Light refraction over large bodies of water, down close to the surface are...

Here's a link to a site that calculates the angles down to the horizon from 25,000 - 41,000 ft. The angles range from 2.8 to 3.84 degrees. (i.e. not easily noticable with the naked eye but very easily measured with even crude instruments. Determine angle down to horizon from different flight...

Obviously, the government is better at keeping some conspiracies intact than they are others... Whistle-Blower: ‘Global Warming’ Data Manipulated Before Paris Conference

Yes, actually we do. The higher you are the more you have to look down to see the horizon. It's usually undetectable by the naked eye because the Earth is very large.

You know that I call it as I see it. You are being lied too, Dave. It is't my fault that you propogate the lie. Which is easier to believe? That there is a conspiracy that has been propagated for centuries where millions of people are in on the lie designed to convince the world population the...