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It is sad, envious, glorious news. We will all meet again: 2 Samuel 12:23

No. 2 Timothy 2:13 Not a 'limitation' however, as I understand one. Generally a limitation is 'short of a perfection,' an inability. God doesn't deny Himself because He is 'unable' but rather because He is consistently good (no darkness at all). It thus is not a limitation, but a...

I'm not sure it is part of this thread, but briefly the argument in theology circles is if God is Almighty, He logically can assert it as the only power source in and outside of existence (more than the universe). The argument: If One claims omnipotence, He is simultaneously claiming...

It is a guessed supposition based on an understanding. I've argued this a number of times on TOL: If I own an Almanac from the future, Lon has absolutely no power over anything that will happen. I was laughing at a joke by Nate Bargatze, He said if he were able to go back into the past, he...

Trying to figure out how it fits with His morality (thread). Ty Perhaps a different thread for discussion: For me, if one omni, all of them by definition and logic but answers a different thread than this one, unless I'm just not making the connection. I'm opposed to a limitation of any kind...

Scripture has to answer: Romans 10:9-10 Comes after these: Romans 3:23 All have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God Romans 5:8 God loves us, even in sin Romans 6:23 Because the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ. 1) Saved thus means...

Ray Comfort and Elon Musk know each other?? Agree on the former Romans 10:14,15 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach unless they...

It be a whole different conversation with me involved. Psalm 139:7,8 for example... However I'm trying to follow this regarding God's Morality? Appreciate a bit of the big picture of the tie-in as I'm lost on this finer point anyone? Please and thank you in advance anyone (not just for...

Well and good, but none of that includes a need for a choice, which is the point (I'll come back to it, but this is all I have left for time tonight). We are rather discussing if "a different and more specifically 'opposing' decision/choice' is necessary 'for choice." We are getting into...

Yes. As far as my traditional view, with scriptures in mind, I don't have a horse in this race, but the two ideas have a cake/eat dichotomy. For the Open Theist, it is 1) God moves uni-durational but 2) the concept of 'time' isn't a thing that exists, rather it is a concept that applies...

Time is the factor difference for all of us to know anything. If I adopt the OV paradigm that God must discover, in timeless sense, all of time is 'now' with but constructs. Analogy, 3 blind men talking about an elephant: One a large snake, another trees in a forest, and the third a...

Seems more like cake and eating it too, to me. If it doesn't exist, then it wasn't 'before' God created either, right?

Good thing I asked the short in the last sentence! (thank you for weighing in). In a nutshell, the Summit Clock Experiment It was one of those points where I was trying to see if Open Theists among themselves disagree, or whether I was missing a subtle difference because of importance for...

Wait as second. Which claim (or did I miss it)? I wholly appreciate two Open Theists talking about what has also troubled me, on logical points. I've similar questions so appreciate the dialogue Well, of course, he is 'going down to see' so I'd think that He 'can.' There is an importance...

Good afternoon Clete and thread, An invitation to simply clip what you want to respond to. I clipped about half and still the only two people who are going to read you and I, are you and I and I don't know about me! It will be about a 3-4 minute read, but there are a bunch of 'outs' offered...

I'd think it somewhat on point in this thread, I don't know, but great question. I wished I asked it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68045254 Does it make any kind of sense that any Americans march for Arab forces when U.S. citizens and forces are clearly targeted? Barring 'irrational' I'm simply not getting the 'why.'

It'd seem to take care of the debate on any given point. The Summit Clock Experiment was about God's ability/ inability to traverse increments in more than a linear direction (time). Skip to the last sentence* if I cloudy this up: If time doesn't exist, for me or another on the other...

I'm having an existential moment trying to think of your questions inside a thread that says it doesn't exist. 1)Time = a duration, an interval between two points. --It'd seem that duration happens. It'd seem that there is such a thing as an interval between two points. It'd seem a clock...