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  1. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    Certainly 'in' pertaining to the topic, but no, wasn't in mind. Rather it is that I render all offerings 'in Him' to 1) acknowledge I'm a servant and need to bring all my conveyance under His watchful eye and 2) a bit of submission to my fellow man (you certainly) in humility. Only what God...
  2. Lon

    You won't see this on the news

    O.o and stinky!
  3. Lon

    Our Moral God

    This one?
  4. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Who gets to decide what is knowable for God? The term 'knowable' usually has a lot of qualifications from what Open Theists believe i.e. having just inklings of what is happening in Sodom and Gomorrah that He has to go see, not knowing where Adam is actually hiding. Because God is the...
  5. Lon

    Time doesn't exist.

    Something akin to panentheism or exactly that. Colossians 1:16-20 that I often repeat on TOL. Open ideas/paradigms, often come from thinking "God is inside of the universe." "Creation, Concept, Expression, Handiwork, etc. are all equated if I'm grasping his intent. "In Him we live, and move...
  6. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Agree. God knew, thus wasn't asking 'where?' for information, but to hold men accountable.
  7. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Well, 1) I've given an apology, please accept it. 2) I'd hope you can empathize on this: Something is in common with Mormons or else the major Open Theologians and authors wouldn't be doing Bringham Young (Boyd, Sanders, Pinnock, likely more minor players). That alone is intriguing...
  8. Lon

    Guns!

    For shooting around corners... (I know! "Random!)
  9. Lon

    You won't see this on the news

    A small request (maybe): If it is easy enough, could you snip a quote to post with these, or do a synopsis? This from the Twitter page:
  10. Lon

    Our Moral God

    "Sometimes" rather, (I appreciate irony but take the criticism as good, you are correct). No, I'm just a random. My mind goes 100 miles an hour and it evident. My first drafts are rarely gems. I did graduate an MA with a very high score, but had to really work at it. You were talking...
  11. Lon

    On the omniscience of God

    Omniscience is simply the term. "Knows all things" and "All Knowing" are interchangeable. While He has never sinned, of course He knows all the ins and outs of its actions and influence else we'd not be saved from it, right? Jesus was 'tempted in every way.' I don't believe...
  12. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Omnis come from the standpoint of 'all that is' isn't co-eternal with God. As humans, the universe is all we know but God is 'all' there is and much more than simply this piece of His creative work (universe) so the omnis are a way of trying to grasp God's statements: Almighty: Omnipotent...
  13. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Triune God: All physical analogies break down. "Spirit is indivisible" helps me begin to understand a Triune nature because as Father Son and Holy Spirit are/is Spirit, I can about manage to grasp Their/His Oneness. Propositions for your inspection: 1) It is uniquely true that Jesus...
  14. Lon

    Our Moral God

    (with a good heart) All on you. You just are not reading my mind and this paragraph is 100% of where my statement came from: I meant no 'guilty by association.' Reread: the statement was about 'who doesn't hold to omni's.' Next? I apologized, and I meant it but please don't look for...
  15. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Tired. Saying it is so regardless. :doh: All of those mean 'sustain.' You just like arguing to argue. You were wrong and you know it. Be changed by truth, don't entrench with your fingers in your ears. Don't be arguing 'just' to argue. There is no point to this dialogue or interjection.
  16. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Have a link? https://www.fairlatterdaysaints.org/blog/2010/01/20/mormon-thought-vs-ope-theism (yes, that David Paulsen LDS and that Clark Pinnock Open Theist) Important point: Don't be 'stupid' about it. If we hold something actually in common, I'll not be offended but will do the leg...
  17. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Sunisteo is where we get 'sustain.' You are literally wrong. Control and sustain aren't synonymous, if that was the hang up. Needs some definitions. What do you mean by 'force?' Example: 2 Corinthians 5:14-19 Love in this case, is a force, that God uses which 'constrains' (one form of...
  18. Lon

    Our Moral God

    God is the Originator of the entire universe. There is nothing in it that He is restricted from. You are missing my point. God is 'unable' to sin. What we were discussing were definitions and I yet believe 'limitation' carries problematic concerns. Is God 'limited' to only not sinning...
  19. Lon

    Our Moral God

    Intent is 3/4. A 'little' isn't even on the docket, but rather a difference and specifically who. If you believe 'like' a Mormon, that sir, is no ad hominem. It is rather a classification, like 'Calvinist' that draws the line in a marker again so it is understood that when you make an...
  20. Lon

    What did you believe before Open Theism?

    "How we got here" is helpful especially for those of us not Open Theists (me and the rest of Christianity). What did you believe before you became an Open Theist? How did you jump the hurdles? How big were they at the time? How resistant or ready were you upon hearing about Open Theism?
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