kmoney

Is it just me or did Nang not actually answer me...you, you I'm accustomed to.

Thanks kmo, it has been good for me.

You take good care, I very much appreciate your friendship.

Also: zippy emailed me outside of here and we've made peace. I wanted you to know.

Hi kmo.

Just stopping in for a bit. Taking a break, it's been a good and needed thing. I have a lot on my mind.

I hope you're doing well.

Gracias.

You too, kmo.

Taking it easy, probably seeing a couple of friends later. Maybe buy a milk frother and investigating a Japanese incense store. I've been trying to learn a bit about Japanese incense recently. I like a low-key birthday.

I can't give a full answer to what he means by creative suffering of God just yet, since that will be unveiled through the entire book. The impression so far is that he critically uses process philosophy, being skeptical of some of its core doctrines. He embraces a form of kenotic creation, namely that God willingly limits himself when creating to offer real freedom. So unlike in process theology, this freedom and the suffering that results from it, is not a metaphysical necessity but rather God's creative act. He then wants to place God at the center of this evolving community of organisms (rather than above it as in the hierarchical reality in medieval philosophy). God participates in sympathy with his creation.

It will be interesting to see how he will present the eschatological victory over suffering. The problem coulb be that if there is no good eschatology is that it can devolve into a sentimental and rather tragic view of reality.

Planet Earth is great. All of those BBC David Attenborough documentaries are amazing, "Life" is probably my favorite. Any insect documentaries?

That music is quite interesting. It is interesting that we enjoy music that reflects a mathematical structure of a phenomenon in nature. Going to download the entire thing and listen to it.

How is it going?

Been reading anything?

Started a book by Paul Fiddes, a Baptist theologian at Oxford University, called The Creative Suffering of God. Seems quite interesting. He is building on Moltmann and that tradition, but seems to have a stronger eschatology. Acknowledging the suffering of God can become a bit problematic unless one emphasis the overcoming over suffering in eschatology.

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Speaking of becoming an uncle. I just got an invitation for my grandniece's baptism, that made me feel a bit old lain:

I think you are correct in that he doesn't turn over the wisdom of OT in general, I was primarily thinking of some of the wisdom literature in the OT, such as the proverbs. The idea that blessedness and comforts and wealths go together is pretty much demolished in both the teachings and life of Jesus.

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Good morning, I have discovered some chronic back problems with which I must deal. But I am doing fairly well on a daily basis. Thanks for thinking of me.

Thanks, kmo. I posted a thread about American exceptionalism once. I don't think it went too far. :chuckle:

It's an interesting article because I think both sides can make a case. There should be a good balance between "my country right or wrong" and "evil white men." But I know from my own high school experience that it was very biased toward "America was always right" (I went to a Christian high school) and it's good that there's a more realistic lens to view history through these days. We weren't always right - not by a long, long shot.

What do you think?

Hope you're having a good week yourself.

I have a question though. I have started reading some Moltmann lately (The Crucified God): In what sense and to what degree do you think it is fair to say that Jesus overturns much (or some) of the wisdom of the Old Testament scriptures? Moltmann seems to want to say that in Jesus crucified and resurrected (and his teachings), there is an overturning of the idea that the blessed are prosperous. He seems to want to make the point that Jesus is a scandalous God both for pagans and according to the law (as in cursed is the man who hangs on a tree). This is theologia crucis: A theology that is primary focused on God revealed on the cross and resurrection (and these can never be separated, the crucified is the glorified). Opposed to a theology of glory that focuses on God's power and majesty, often deduced from natural theology.

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Good to hear that your father's condition wasn't too serious. And I see that you are becoming an uncle. What is more scary, uncle kmo or cousins H&G? lain:

What Clayton is getting is that while finitude is what we discover first, because we are finite, finitude presupposed infinity conceptually (as in you cannot think about limiting something without presupposing that "something" without limits). In that case, infinity is a conceptual necessity (even if there is no actual infinity).

Weekend was good. Visited my brother, we tried a delicious beer I can recommend if you want to enter into stout territory without going fully into the very heavy imperial stouts: St.Peter's Cream Stout by St.Peter's brewery.

Now I'm a bit sick, started to get a sore throat last evening lain:

I'm looking into different job oppurtunities at the moment, figuring out where I would want to start.

Hi kmo.

Doing okay. Are you used to the idea of being an uncle yet?

This is my son last night at his game shooting a free throw.. I'm not good at takingppictures.. Lol..

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Maybe it was the humour that drew him....

Okay, you're the scanner... :shocked:

Get an A on my test?

Seriously, I have to tell AB, because he already thinks I'm a scanner. :chuckle:

I said SoJ... and there he was. How did I do that?