I don't have to. Your questions are moot because you close your eyes from your own rotten fruit.
I am only showing you your rotten fruit.
ECT Why should we belive your sect?? Your fruits are rotten my friend.
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I don't have to. Your questions are moot because you close your eyes from your own rotten fruit.
I am only showing you your rotten fruit.
The rotten fruit of those who separate the Body of Christ reeks more every day. Today is an especially good example as if there were any doubt.
Catholic countries that have Concordats don't kill children, nor teach them to have sex with anyone and everyone at 12 years old, give them condoms and tell them to watch pornography all the while prohibiting teaching the Bible in schools. For this reason the USA has among the highest incidence of child sacrifice in the world.
HisServant
New member
Pride cometh before the fall.
Today is a perfect example in the US.
BTW, if you met me in person you would not say I am proud. I am driven to spread the Gospel because I love you and everything God has fashioned with His glorious hand.
Everyone else is sinful except me and my own group.
Not what the historical figure of Jesus taught at all.
Very true observation. This is called exclusivism and is one of the reasons of the moral state of America. I am Catholic and a sinner and believe many Protestants will go to heaven in spite of their incomplete doctrine.
HisServant
New member
Your posts don't convey that... they convey a cultist that doesn't think for themselves anymore.
//Just sayin... that is what is obvious.
HisServant
New member
Do you think God cares one iota about gay marriage.... I don't.
He cares about individual actions... making something illegal is no substitute from reaching them and convincing them of the truth so they aren't inclined to such behavior.
I freely attended more than one Protestant for years and have investigated any claims people have made. I was baptized in a Protestant Church. I chose the Catholic Church because I looked at the facts not because I felt pressured or because I want to be special.
HisServant
New member
Specifics please.
What denominations were the Protestant churches you attended and what was the general vicinity of where they were (state will be close enough).
Without giving specifics, your posts are unbelievable.
whitestone
Well-known member
Sancocho,,,you ask us why we should believe your sect,ect.ect. and I agree why should any of us believe any of the different sects. But,,,and I don't mean this disrespectful but just to point out something.
You are a new member and you seem to be Catholic,you feel as though it is correct but when I ask you about the things I did you didn't answer. So there's only one or two ways to look at this. Lets say that you joined tol and bingo! you just converted me to catholic!!!!,,,
So now that you did I'm probably going to have a bunch of questions right? And so I ask you the questions I did in my former post,,but you either could not or did not want to answer them. So I'm/we are left with a problem.
You are telling us that you believe in Catholicism and that you are banking your eternal life on it being true. And that we should also trust our(and our families) eternal salvation on what your saying(the thing you believe),,,
But now see when I ask you you didn't understand why I was asking you those things. So your asking us to just take a big leap into following you in your religion when your not really sure yourself. If not you would have said "oh yes whitestone I've read every letter in the Catholic library and fully understand them so your not asking something new to me",,,
So what are you going to say to me if you convert me to Catholic,,"oh I really don't know but I believe it is true"? Is there someone you were going to refer us to, to give us all the reasons you are convinced it is the true religion?,,,
If you have already read through this http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/ and then you have decided it is correct then it would make sense that you made up your mind it is correct to be Catholic then you would be right to tell us because it is out of love to show us whats correct.
Again though if you have not studied these then your just following what your instincts are saying(gut instinct) and we should ask you "why should we gamble our eternal salvation on your instincts?",,,
Now I sit and read the threads here most every day and there are many who are Catholic who seem to be polite,loving people. So you I suppose will befriend them(I suggest you do) some of them I notice are very knowledgeable(all things Catholic),some not so(no offense),,,
But bare in mind everyone on any of theses type forums(www world) would be way to busy running their actual churches if what they were teaching was widely accepted. So most of us are because of bad experiences in the many denominations and are not quite in agreement with the doctrines they teach. If not then we could just get in the car and go to the one we think is correct. Instead either we wanted to be preachers and the churches all around us didn't agree with what we were saying and wouldn't let us be the pastor and here we are telling you,lol
There's probably some here who don't like me(I'm too blunt at times,at times I say to much) I don't dislike or hate any of the people here on T.O.L. ,,I actually do read quite a bit of what they say back and forth and then research the things they are discussing. Most people in general who want to know the truth aren't after just any truth there after "the true,true truth",the one we can give to our spouse, our children and ourselves.
Now watch and see every click,group,club,church ect. who reads this is going to see me as looking for the "TRUE,TRUE,TRUTH" and they'll all come out of the woodwork and say "here it is,listen to me",,,and why,well to them it is the truth. Now I'll listen to them because most time I think "hmm,I remember when I saw it just like that too",,,
Years ago I bought the exhaustive strongs concordance(before the internet) and I still have it,it looks like a coloring book a kindergartener got a hold of,lol. As the www took off(after the original internet connecting the college libraries) is when all the "christian forums" sprang up. Before that most of us figured out that you could go to Princeton archives(rare manuscripts collection) and link from Cambridge to the Vatican library and read long before they were uploaded on the www(but thanks for uploading them).
I described myself as a "christian" when I filled out the questions joining T.O.L. ,lol I said I was a pinko-commie(I"m not really) but you have to fill in something or it wont let you submit the form to join(so you have to put something),my true political stance is(Joshuah 5:14 KJV) and so I already have a king and don't want elect another.
My stance if I described myself in faith I suppose is dispensational,it was before I came here not that I was talked into it. But again I wouldn't describe my self as middle,28'er,or 2(though I'm not against them,I differ a little here and there,lol thats (our) private debate tho,lol),,,
You are a new member and you seem to be Catholic,you feel as though it is correct but when I ask you about the things I did you didn't answer. So there's only one or two ways to look at this. Lets say that you joined tol and bingo! you just converted me to catholic!!!!,,,
So now that you did I'm probably going to have a bunch of questions right? And so I ask you the questions I did in my former post,,but you either could not or did not want to answer them. So I'm/we are left with a problem.
You are telling us that you believe in Catholicism and that you are banking your eternal life on it being true. And that we should also trust our(and our families) eternal salvation on what your saying(the thing you believe),,,
But now see when I ask you you didn't understand why I was asking you those things. So your asking us to just take a big leap into following you in your religion when your not really sure yourself. If not you would have said "oh yes whitestone I've read every letter in the Catholic library and fully understand them so your not asking something new to me",,,
So what are you going to say to me if you convert me to Catholic,,"oh I really don't know but I believe it is true"? Is there someone you were going to refer us to, to give us all the reasons you are convinced it is the true religion?,,,
If you have already read through this http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/ and then you have decided it is correct then it would make sense that you made up your mind it is correct to be Catholic then you would be right to tell us because it is out of love to show us whats correct.
Again though if you have not studied these then your just following what your instincts are saying(gut instinct) and we should ask you "why should we gamble our eternal salvation on your instincts?",,,
Now I sit and read the threads here most every day and there are many who are Catholic who seem to be polite,loving people. So you I suppose will befriend them(I suggest you do) some of them I notice are very knowledgeable(all things Catholic),some not so(no offense),,,
But bare in mind everyone on any of theses type forums(www world) would be way to busy running their actual churches if what they were teaching was widely accepted. So most of us are because of bad experiences in the many denominations and are not quite in agreement with the doctrines they teach. If not then we could just get in the car and go to the one we think is correct. Instead either we wanted to be preachers and the churches all around us didn't agree with what we were saying and wouldn't let us be the pastor and here we are telling you,lol
There's probably some here who don't like me(I'm too blunt at times,at times I say to much) I don't dislike or hate any of the people here on T.O.L. ,,I actually do read quite a bit of what they say back and forth and then research the things they are discussing. Most people in general who want to know the truth aren't after just any truth there after "the true,true truth",the one we can give to our spouse, our children and ourselves.
Now watch and see every click,group,club,church ect. who reads this is going to see me as looking for the "TRUE,TRUE,TRUTH" and they'll all come out of the woodwork and say "here it is,listen to me",,,and why,well to them it is the truth. Now I'll listen to them because most time I think "hmm,I remember when I saw it just like that too",,,
Years ago I bought the exhaustive strongs concordance(before the internet) and I still have it,it looks like a coloring book a kindergartener got a hold of,lol. As the www took off(after the original internet connecting the college libraries) is when all the "christian forums" sprang up. Before that most of us figured out that you could go to Princeton archives(rare manuscripts collection) and link from Cambridge to the Vatican library and read long before they were uploaded on the www(but thanks for uploading them).
I described myself as a "christian" when I filled out the questions joining T.O.L. ,lol I said I was a pinko-commie(I"m not really) but you have to fill in something or it wont let you submit the form to join(so you have to put something),my true political stance is(Joshuah 5:14 KJV) and so I already have a king and don't want elect another.
My stance if I described myself in faith I suppose is dispensational,it was before I came here not that I was talked into it. But again I wouldn't describe my self as middle,28'er,or 2(though I'm not against them,I differ a little here and there,lol thats (our) private debate tho,lol),,,
El Calvario, Assemblies of God Church in Orlando Fl is one. I like them, still, their doctrine is incomplete. I love all my fellow Christians.
I have not told anyone here they need to be Catholic in order to go to heaven.
I have said Protestants can go to heaven, after all the mere mention of the name JESUS CHRIST can save.
I have said don't separate the Body of Christ because there are severe consequences.
HisServant
New member
So you went from a cult to the Catholic church... that is understandable. (though not correct). Since you are used to being ruled and following orders it would be natural for you to seek out another religion where you are dominated.
We were never ordered to do anything actually. We didn't even have to speak in tongues. We never were told to be part of any group but did attend retreats and family day functions.
HisServant
New member
That is their MO... they were definitely controlling you.
How can I be controlled if I was never told I had to do anything to be a member? We went to 2 family days and couple retreats in 5 years.
BTW, what was your denomination again?
True body of Christ do not produce rotten fruit. If you are producing rotten fruit, you are not in Jesus' body.
this is Jesus' word: we know them by their fruit.
If you are Jesus' servant, you are part of body of Christ. You are making up your own definition of Body of Christ.
Unlike you I don't tell others that they don't know Christ, only that there are consequences for false doctrines. I use Jesus' Words to judge your actions and others who separate the Body of Christ and I will not accept any false interpretations of this Scripture. As much as I love you as a unique person created by God I love Christ more.
heir
TOL Subscriber
The religious, denominational system is courtesy of the mystery of iniquity that doth allready work (2 Thessalonians 2:7 KJV). These are in pulpits all over the world (2 Corinthians 11:13-15 KJV). They preach another jesus and an other gospel than that which Paul preached. They tell people they must DO something to be saved and have more requirements for church membership than God requires for membership in the Body of Christ!