Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 4

[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Since homosexuality and same sex marriage were made 'legal', those behaviors are legitimate in the eyes of the law and are protected by laws against discrimination.

See what your "consenting people" ideology has brought?

Besides, you don't want to force the Bible's morality on other people do you?
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ized!-Part-4&p=5116666&viewfull=1#post5116666

Read the whole conversation first.

Those were your words not mine. Quit pretending that you and ...Dante are enemies; like every other Libertarian here on TOL you pretend to have ideological differences with ...Dante, but in reality you have no desire to do anything to enforce those differences.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
I've exposed both Daddy Paul and Jr. Paul in an earlier thread. Jr. Paul is more polished than the old geezer (while Jr. embraces homosexuality and decriminalizing recreational drugs, he avoids hot topics like kiddy porn):

It isn't a hot topic. Kiddy porn is another part of the porn industry. This is the sad truth.

And leave it to a degenerate like Ron Paul to say that internet kiddy porn is a "states rights issue".

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
You're a fine one to be talking about libel. Your recent attempt at smearing the late great anti communist J. Edgar Hoover is just once example of you doing so...

It isn't a smear. He was a blatant bisexual who likely prefered women. Among the upperclass at the time, the word homosexual meant someone who couldn't get someone of the opposite sex. J Edgar Hoover never promoted pornography and other upperclass disgrace's of the period, but he is a product of being elite in the 50's and 60's. It does no good to deny homosexuality was the rich man's disease. Only a complete ignoramus would think your refutation was any good, because there were several other suspicious occasions where he was with other men. Perhaps he was married to his job. Furthermore the politics of the 50s and 60s are much more corrupt than people know. We had nay-any reason to be in Vietnam.

Seek spiritual and psychological help before it's too late.

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
I'm just refuting yet another one of your many lies:

If you want to make the case for sound economic policies using Libertarian doctrine, then do so, BUT, you can't borrow off of Judeo Christian doctrine because that would be 'stealing', and we all know how Libertarians feel about theft.

So did they "thieve" from Frederic Bastiat?

I wonder why Libertarians never use this quote by Bastiat?

"Life Is a Gift from God.
We hold from God the gift which includes all others. This gift is life -- physical, intellectual, and moral life.

But life cannot maintain itself alone. The Creator of life has entrusted us with the responsibility of preserving, developing, and perfecting it. In order that we may accomplish this, He has provided us with a collection of marvelous faculties. And He has put us in the midst of a variety of natural resources. By the application of our faculties to these natural resources we convert them into products, and use them. This process is necessary in order that life may run its appointed course.

Life, faculties, production--in other words, individuality, liberty, property -- this is man. And in spite of the cunning of artful political leaders, these three gifts from God precede all human legislation, and are superior to it.

Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.”

― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

 

[drbrumley]

So Pornography is a federal government issue?

 

[SabathMoon]

"... Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.”

― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

I think you have a poor understanding of the last paragraph. But the Austrian economists haven't proven their contention that economics and religion are not related. It seems their favorite French author doesn't agree with them.

And I am still waiting for your proof that Rand Paul promotes Cannabis for recreational usage. Lately Rand has been quiet about cannabis legalization.

I think after having a bad trip with it, and it happens often enough; people will be less likely to think of it as recreational. It is certainly worse than sniffing an aqua buddha that contains water.

And no, federal law enforcement should have nothing to do with policing child pornography.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

So Pornography is a federal government issue?

Crimes that cross state lines is. I wonder how Daddy Paul feels about the Mann Act?

The White-Slave Traffic Act, or the Mann Act, is a United States federal law, passed June 25, 1910 (ch. 395, 36 Stat. 825; codified as amended at 18 U.S.C. §§ 2421–2424).
It is named after Congressman James Robert Mann of Illinois, and in its original form made it a felony to engage in interstate or foreign commerce transport of "any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose". Its primary stated intent was to address prostitution, immorality, and human trafficking, particularly where trafficking was for the purposes of prostitution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act

Child pornography via the internet falls under the Mann Act.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

And I am still waiting for your proof that Rand Paul promotes Cannabis for recreational usage. Lately Rand has been quiet about cannabis legalization.

You know what Jr. Paul stands for, or you wouldn't back him.

Rand Paul joins Democratic Senators to push marijuana legalization bill
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/10/republican-sen-rand-paul-joins-democratic-senators/

As far as Jr Paul's stance on sexual perversion goes:

One month he wants government to stay out of matters that involve the nucleus of society:

Rand Paul: Government should get out of the marriage business altogether
http://time.com/3939374/rand-paul-gay-marriage-supreme-court/

and a month later he wants those who engage in sexual perversion to be treated "fairly":

Rand Paul of gay marriage: People out to be treated fairly
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/12/politics/rand-paul-same-sex-marriage/index.html

And no, federal law enforcement should have nothing to do with policing child pornography.

Please don't think for second that I value your opinion on anything and that I'm trying to win you godless Libertarians over with sound reasoning. While I would love nothing more than for your kind to seek spiritual and psychological counseling and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, my purpose here is to expose your godless ideology and the political movement that goes with it and eventually defeat you.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

I've talked about the video 'Tranzformed' before and finally got an opportunity to view it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCkdF3WCB2s

It's amazing the commonalities that these people had that lead them to their sexual and gender confusion. What's even more amazing is what they did to overcome their physical, psychological and spiritually destructive lifestyle.

Beg, borrow or buy the video, it's worth it's weight in gold.

 

[SabathMoon]

Please don't think for second that I value your opinion on anything and that I'm trying to win you godless Libertarians over with sound reasoning. While I would love nothing more than for your kind to seek spiritual and psychological counseling and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, my purpose here is to expose your godless ideology and the political movement that goes with it and eventually defeat you.

It is time for you to stop calling me, a libertarian-- dipstick. And Deism is not a godless ideology, which seems to what Federic Bastiat seems to subscribe too.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

It is time for you to stop calling me, a libertarian-- dipstick. .

Yet you support Libertarian politicians and causes. You've stated elsewhere that you're not a card carrying member of the Libertarian Party, but that doesn't mean that you don't embrace their ideology.

And Deism is not a godless ideology, which seems to what Federic Bastiat seems to subscribe too.

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

 

[SabathMoon]

Yet you support Libertarian politicians and causes. You've stated elsewhere that you're not a card carrying member of the Libertarian Party, but that doesn't mean that you don't embrace their ideology.

Do you believe in constant military interventionism?

http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

It looks like a Deist wrote this.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Yet you support Libertarian politicians and causes. You've stated elsewhere that you're not a card carrying member of the Libertarian Party, but that doesn't mean that you don't embrace their ideology.

Do you believe in constant military interventionism?

Do you Libertarians really believe if we leave these barbarians alone that they'll leave us alone?

http://freethoughtnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/violentkoranictexts2-300x300.jpg

That's not to say that we're going about the right way of fighting these barbarians.

Have I mentioned that Islam and the LGBTQ movement have much in common?

A devout HATRED of Judeo-Christian docdtrine
Rampant child molestation

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

It looks like a Deist wrote this.

I've never seen a deist mention God so often.

Thoughts on this statement from Bastiat:

The Law and Morals
You say: "Here are persons who are lacking in morality or religion," and you turn to the law. But law is force. And need I point out what a violent and futile effort it is to use force in the matters of morality and religion?
http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Speaking of man-boy love:

HIV-infected school aide accused of sexually victimizing 42 children in Maryland

Oct. 24, 2017

A former Maryland school aide and track coach accused of sexually assaulting several male students while he was HIV positive was indicted Friday on more charges as the number of victims has nearly doubled.
The Charles County State Attorney’s Office announced Monday a 206-count indictment for Carlos Deangelo Bell, 30, a stark increase from the 119-count indictment handed out in late July.
Bell is now accused of assaulting 42 juveniles after officials originally reported 24 victims in July.
"The ages of the alleged victims at the time the offenses were committed range from 11 years old to 17 years old," the state attorney's office said.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/2...accused-sexually-victimizing-42-children.html

Wow, 42 children have to worry about contracting HIV/AIDS because a homosexual was allowed to be around them (not to mention the horrific psychological damage they went through being molested).

http://blacktimetravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/carlos-bell.jpg

 

[SabathMoon]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Yet you support Libertarian politicians and causes. You've stated elsewhere that you're not a card carrying member of the Libertarian Party, but that doesn't mean that you don't embrace their ideology.

I have usually claimed to be a conservative.

ISLAM!! Oh no

Islam has nothing on us. Mexico has been instrumental in bring Islamic terrorism to the United States. Yet we bailed them out a long time ago.

And they have no working nuclear weapons, just like North Korea, but there is a reason why we should stop them though. Their leader threatens our trade partners Japan and Korea, who aren't as cheaply paid as they used to be.

That's not to say that we're going about the right way of fighting these barbarians.

You don't say?

Have I mentioned that Islam and the LGBTQ movement have much in common?

A devout HATRED of Judeo-Christian docdtrine
Rampant child molestation

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior

I don't believe Islam always share that in common.
http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

I've never seen a deist mention God so often.

He was a trinitarian; I am pretty sure, if you imply Thomas Jefferson didn't mention God often; I tend to agree. I have rumors were he set up fellow Deist Benjamin Franklin with a venereal disease, and how Ben Banneker was a Southern tool to persuade the North that slavery in the South would dissolve.

Thoughts on this statement from Bastiat:

The Law and Morals
You say: "Here are persons who are lacking in morality or religion," and you turn to the law. But law is force. And need I point out what a violent and futile effort it is to use force in the matters of morality and religion?
http://bastiat.org/en/the_law.html

But you would feed the military to attack a comparatively lame entity such as Islam. You view them as too much threat. With 9/11, they got very lucky, and yet we whine that we did nothing to deserve it in trying to build a world empire with the UN.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

I have usually claimed to be a conservative.

Hence why I'm exposing the godless cult known as Libertarianism, because they're pretending to be conservatives.

Funny how you Libertarians can never say what values you're conserving.

I am pretty sure, if you imply Thomas Jefferson didn't mention God often; I tend to agree.

The same Thomas Jefferson who acknowledged in the Declaration of Independence that man's rights come from God?

I have rumors were he set up fellow Deist Benjamin Franklin with a venereal disease,..

I'd like you to stick around and chat, but I believe Alex Jones is calling your name.

https://memegenerator.net/img/insta...rything-except-stupid-conspiracy-theories.jpg

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Continuing with the article from a few pages back exposing godless Libertarianism:

http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ized!-Part-4&p=5115030&viewfull=1#post5115030

• We cannot miss the similarities between libertarianism and liberalism. While libertarians claim to be opponents of liberalism, it is not accidental that they have the same root word. There is an insidious mix of thought between libertarianism and liberalism. Both have certain political goals in common, such as utopian anti-war sentiment and pro gay rights. While there are versions of libertarianism that claim compatibility with Christian theism, something classic libertarianism has in common with liberalism is that both are often at war with, or marginalize, God. Liberalism, when taken to its logical conclusion, leads to life without God--socialism, communism, humanism, and other non-theistic worldviews. Liberalism in any form, if properly understood, results in devastating results for a society--even harming those it was intended to help...

• Libertarianism is at its core a selfish worldview. This is distinctly different from biblical Christianity. Christianity subjugates the self to God, and to other people (Matthew 22:34-39). In contrast, classic libertarianism and liberalism alike are opposed to, or have no need for, a moral authority above the individual self.

• Libertarian Christians have, amazingly, adopted other concepts and the language of liberal secularists. They say to other Christians, "We don't want a theocracy." This charge is a red herring. Theocracy is when the church, as an institution, has all political power, including administering civil law. Biblical Christians want no such thing. We support the separation of church and state, properly understood. And we certainly do not want Old Testament civil and ceremonial laws instituted in society. Such laws were repealed in the New Testament (Acts 10:12-15; Colossians 2:11-16; Romans 14:17).


More to follow...

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Oh my, TOL's vast Libertarian community aren't going to like this:

Analysis: 5 Possible Outcomes of First Mueller Indictments

10-28-17

The uncharacteristically quiet day at the White House was upended Friday evening by a report that the first indictments in the Justice Department’s Russia probe are imminent.
A Washington, D.C., federal grand jury has approved a set of initial charges stemming from the Robert S. Mueller III-led investigation into Russia’s meddling into the 2016 U.S. presidential election. CNN was the first to report that the former FBI director turned special counsel could take the first individuals into custody as soon as Monday.


While all indications are that President Donald Trump has yet to be interviewed by Mueller, there’s a list of his top 2016 campaign aides, current and former White House aides and longtime confidants who could be rounded up by Mueller’s team early next week.
Here are five indictments and related outcomes that are possible then:

Read more:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ctments/ar-AAu9yum?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

http://www.trbimg.com/img-58c1a4f4/turbine/la-pol-ca-swalwell-map-of-trump-s-ties-to-russia-20170309

 

[freelight]

Freeing oneself from religious tyranny......its a start.......

Freeing oneself from religious tyranny......its a start.......

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Spoiler

To save the viewers of this thread from watching 22+ minutes of garbage, could you point out where in the video in addition to God embracing 'loving' homosexual relationships, He embraces 'loving' incestuous, bestial and adulterous relationships?

 

[freelight]

To save the viewers of this thread from watching 22+ minutes of garbage, could you point out where in the video in addition to God embracing 'loving' homosexual relationships, He embraces 'loving' incestuous, bestial and adulterous relationships?

They can do their own research on the issue and decide for themselves what the Bible says...and DOES NOT SAY...since the Bible is not a complete, comprehensive or FINAL testament about anything, its quite limited in its content, and much is only relevant to the cultural context in which the scribes wrote it, and for a particular tribe of people. It cannot therefore address the issue of 'homosexuality' in the full knowledge and context of what we know about it TODAY in modern times. It might be wise to awaken to the modern age.

You have a 'problem' of adding the above bold into the subject, which has NO ASSOCIATION with homosexuality. Got it?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
To save the viewers of this thread from watching 22+ minutes of garbage, could you point out where in the video in addition to God embracing 'loving' homosexual relationships, He embraces 'loving' incestuous, bestial and adulterous relationships?

They can do their own research on the issue and decide for themselves what the Bible says...and DOES NOT SAY...since the Bible is not a complete, comprehensive or FINAL testament about anything, its quite limited in its content, and much is only relevant to the cultural context in which the scribes wrote it, and for a particular tribe of people. It cannot therefore address the issue of 'homosexuality' in the full knowledge and context of what we know about it TODAY in modern times. It might be wise to awaken to the modern age.

It's been well documented throughout this 4 part thread that since the homosexuality was made legal in all but 12 US States (and made legal in all US States due to a homosexual activist ruling by SCOTUS, i.e. Lawrence v Texas), that sexual deviants have literally come out of the closet and attacked invaluable institutions, the Church being one of them for it's stance on traditional morality.

You have a 'problem' of adding the above bold into the subject, which has NO ASSOCIATION with homosexuality. Got it?

You do have a point: Neither bestiality, incest nor adultery are anywhere close to being as disease ridden as homosexual behavior is.

Here's a question that I would like you to answer:

If God all of the sudden (after 2,000 years of condemning it) blesses 'loving' homosexual encounters, why didn't He change the physical makeup of those people engaging in it so that they wouldn't be subjected to the diseases that come with homosexuality, be it in a supposed 'loving' relationship or one that isn't?