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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
What I "think" is based on scientific evidence (there is no homosexual or transsexual 'gene') and the testimonies of many ex homosexuals and ex transsexuals/transvestites.
Except that's hogwash aCW and you know it.
Francis Collins did not say there was no "gay gene" but did suggest that evidence from identical twins rather suggested that there probably was, yet to be found.
With the millions and millions of dollars spent and all the
scientists quacks that have jumped on the LGBTQueer bandwagon, you'd think after all these years that elsuive 'gay gene" would have been found.
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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Again, as I've shown throughout this 3 part thread: due to environmental factors, same sex desires and the behavior called homosexuality is brought on by environmental factors, i.e. childhood sexual abuse, dysfunctional homes, etc.
Nonsense. What you may think you've shown aCW isn't necessarily the same thing as actually showing it.
Clearly most gay people will not report being somehow "turned gay" by some past event(s), they just happened to be gay.
Did all those who were raised un-molested then choose to be gay?
Did some twin brothers who were raised the same choose their sexuality and come to different conclusions?
Why are identical twins more likely to both be gay if one is than non-identical ones if genetics is not a factor?
You acknowledge that no 'gay' gene has been found and deny environmental factors are behind same sex desires but instead come up with the brilliant deduction that people "just happen" to choose perversion? How did that "just happen" Al?
Deriving a false conclusion from some previous event is all too easy imo, if such a specific conclusion or reason is actively looked for.
The fact is that some people just are gay which, as for straight people, simply cannot be fundamentally changed despite what they consciously do or don't do in life or if they go to a quack reparative therapist.
I can see that you're not only very frustrated that your sexual desires didn't change, but very jealous that others have.
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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
They are two separate issues. I haven't taken the time to study why people become gender confused. That being said: If Bruce Jenner who now identifies himself as a woman (yet still has male body parts and always will have male chromosomes) still finds the female gender attractive and has sex with a female, that would still make him a heterosexual. If he has sex with a male, that of course would make him a homosexual.
But maybe you think that all gay people are lying when they say that their sexuality was innate?
Actually Al, not all "gay people" (i.e. people with same sex desires) have said that. Those who have an open mind about their unnatural desires acknowledge that it was environmental factors that caused them to have same sex desires.
You call them disgusting perverts in one sentence and then claim them to be victims of circumstance in the next, you really need to make your mind up aCW. To be a disgusting pervert rather requires that it had to have somehow been chosen. All I can say is that I never made any such choice because I couldn't not to be heterosexual, even if you can.
I mock those who are proud and unrepenant about their immoral lifestyle, never those who are struggling with it and want to do something to overcome it.
Since we were on the topic of that ever so elusive "transsexual gene", here's an interesting article on Walt Heyer's website:
62.7% of Transgenders Have Untreated Mental Disorders
12/29/2014
A stinging new report finds that the majority of patients with gender dysphoria had at least one psychiatric Axis I comorbidity, the most common being major depressive disorder (33.7%), specific phobia (20.5%), and adjustment disorder (15.7%) [a].
Gender dysphoria is a diagnosis of depression. Yet being identified as a transsexual or diagnosed with gender dysphoria often stands in the way of getting a proper diagnosis of the comorbid or underlying psychopathologies.
Depression and Axis 1 disorders can be treated properly with psychiatric medication in conjunction with effective talk therapy. No change of gender is required.
Yet gender change pushers in the medical community continue to steer patients toward gender change as the first and only treatment. They don’t look for comorbid disorders in the transgender patient. They don’t consider that by pushing patients toward gender change they are preventing them from being diagnosed and treated for another disorder that, according to this study, is likely to be present in two-thirds of patients. For patients undergoing gender change, this can be a quick trip to suicide. For example, for the ones who suffer from major depressive disorder, when they are not diagnosed and treated for the depression, suicide is a highly likely outcome...
http://waltheyer.typepad.com/blog/2014/12/627-of-transgenders-have-untreated-mental-disorders.html
Legitimate help is out there for people who want it, whether it be for overcoming same sex desires, or gender confusion.
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