And your incoherent rambling has what to do with conversion therapy?
I have pointed out why conversion therapy is a waste of time. Do you agree or disagree?
No one forced you to respond to my original post on that, nor any thereafter.
In other words, you're...deflecting again.
:chuckle:
As for conversion therapies, I know far too much about inner sense of identity processes and about and sense of identity change processes to simply rule a thing out just because others do or do not.
Case in point, the Chinese were highly successful in turning red, white, and true blue hard core, name, rank, and serial number, returning American POW's into raging commies during the Korean War - without so much as hurling an insult at them.
Which is an issue of tapping into the very heart of what drives compulsion: one's sense of oneself.
As in when people experience a significantly emotional event (either positive or negative) that changes them in that moment and from then on report "and ever since that day, whenever I (hear / see / feel / smell / taste / remember / think about this / that / the other I automatically feel compelled to believe in myself / hate myself / fear this / love that / want to this / that / the other)."
And those are those experiences resulting in unconscious decisions one ends up aware of.
That doesn't even go into those decisions one has made unaware one has made them.
But yeah, given how much I know about many things, someone like you - who deflected each time I made my points on that other subject - would ignorantly conclude "this guy is rambling."
And ya know what - I'm fine with that.
Wouldn't trade my hard earned awareness of such things for all your kind of bliss in the world.
Which leaves you at a decision.
Whether to hold to Romans 5:6-8 towards me for my seeming arrogance, or to allow your pride to rue your roost in your infirmities?
Which will it be - your infirmities or your gloryimg in them, in Him?
Easy peasy, Japa-knee-zee.