Was Paul saved by calling on the name of the Lord? Is that what he was doing on the way to Damascus?
People have been calling on the name of the Lord since Enos (Genesis 4:26).
Who Are The Elect?
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Was Paul saved by calling on the name of the Lord? Is that what he was doing on the way to Damascus?
People have been calling on the name of the Lord since Enos (Genesis 4:26).
Sonnet
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If Jesus did not die for all, then he did not rise for all. That being so, why would Paul (who has in mind his unbelieving brethren - the Israelites) suggest they do so?
"...believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead (and) you will be saved."
You can't maintain your integrity and preach this if you think that Christ did not die and resurrect for all.
Sonnet
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Is it possible that God foresaw that Paul would put his faith in Christ, just as Abraham did?
Ben Masada
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The elect one, is quoted down in Revelation 14:12. "Here is the patience of the Saints; here are they that keep the commandments of God and the Faith of Jesus." ...which was Judaism.
Sonnet
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You know of anyone that has kept the commandments? Jesus Christ?
Ben Masada
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I would like to remind you of Revelation 14:12. The answer-truth for that question above is in that quote. There is no need of struggle to find one.
Ben Masada
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The Lord our God knows that we are humans and, as such, we cannot be perfect. Hence He said that every time we need to set things right with the Lord so that our sins, from scarlet red become as white as snow, we must be reminded constantly. Otherwise, we will get too proud. (Isaiah 1:18,19) Now, because we cannot be perfect, we have to reject the Law and the Prophets? At least, this will keep us out of condemnation. All the same. There is not a single one who has done only good and never sinned. (Ecclesiastes 7:20)
Sonnet
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Sorry Ben, I'm not following you.
beloved57
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Those Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies and unbelievers Rom 5:10. That's not true of all men because many enemies of God are under His Wrath and Condemnation John 3:18,36 !
The Bible clearly teaches that God chose a people for Himself before the foundation of the world. “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will” (Eph. 1:3-5). When the Bible discusses the predestination of those who are in Christ it speaks of the doctrine of election. The “elect” are those chosen by God. The verb “to elect” simply means to choose. The doctrine of election refers to “that eternal act of God whereby He, in His sovereign good pleasure, and on account of no foreseen merit in them, chooses a certain number of men to be the recipients of special grace and of eternal salvation.”28 In order to emphasize the fact that God’s election or choice of certain sinners to be saved is not based upon anything that the sinner himself does, Reformed theologians refer to election to eternal life as unconditional election.*-Brian Schwertley
He did die for all sin. He was raised because he was without sin. We that are baptized into him by the Holy Spirit for trusting in his work are baptized into his death. And with that, we are baptized into his resurrection. That is salvation. Moving from death to life.
Paul was his enemy on the road to Damascus. However, he was reconciled as an enemy, and he was the first one, the prototype. He is the pattern for us today.
1 Timothy 1
15 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am first. 16 However, for this reason I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might show all longsuffering, as a pattern to those who are going to believe on Him for everlasting life.
There is no election without a purpose.
God chose Israel, prophets, Kings, apostles, for the sole purpose of bringing forth his Son and the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.
So Paul didn't call on the name of the Lord and yet he was saved by grace.
yes, it is conditional
Oh. Ok.
4 Then he fell to the ground, and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?”
5 And he said, “Who are You, Lord?”Then the Lord said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting. It is hard for you to kick against the goads.”
6 So he, trembling and astonished, said, “Lord, what do You want me to do?”
Did all of you sissified homos notice The Lord Jesus Christ was talking trash like Michael Jordan? He was mocking Paul at that time.
KingdomRose
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There is nothing that I have said that contradicts those scriptures that you cite. You always ADD stuff to the scriptures. None of them indicate that we should do NOTHING with our gift. If you are given a fishing rod, would you put it in the closet and never use it? How would the person who gave you that gift feel? What good is a gift if you don't do something with it?
Honestly, you ignore half of the Bible. Jesus says "love your enemies, DO what I have taught you, Let men see your good works, and if you endure to the end you will be saved." (Matthew 5:44; John 15:14; Matthew 5:16; Matthew 24:13)
Yet you call me a "cultist" for bringing attention to those verses.