ECT Where did we get the idea of the need for infant baptism?

[Cross Reference]

Baptism is for the remission of sin. Infants don't sin so for them it is just a bath.

Exactly!!

 

[oatmeal]

where does it say the world is round?

Not directly, but Psalm 103:12 is very interesting in that regard.

Note it says, east from west, not north from south.

I'll let you think about that one.

 

[oatmeal]

I can accept that given there is no scripture to support IB.

That is correct

 

[revpete]

I think it's the faulty idea that water baptism is the new covenant version of circumcision.

Yep, that's how I've always understood it

Pete

 

[Cross Reference]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SaulToPaul View Post
I think it's the faulty idea that water baptism is the new covenant version of circumcision.

Yep, that's how I've always understood it ��

Pete ��

Sounds right and if true, where did that idea originate?

 

[Ask Mr. Religion]

Where did that thinking originate? Is it necessary? Is it a decree of God?

See:
http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/articles/infant_baptism.shtml

http://rscottclark.org/2012/09/a-contemporary-reformed-defense-of-infant-baptism/

http://www.spiritone.com/~wing/fs_bapt.htm

AMR

 

[republicanchick]

Where did that thinking originate? Is it necessary? Is it a decree of God?

In Acts, whole households were baptized, which would imply infants

then Jesus said to suffer the little children to come to him, for of such is the kingdom of Heaven.. Baptism keeps them in that Kingdom...

Then there is the passage that says "Baptism... now saveth you"

I think that is Jn 3:3




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[Cross Reference]

See:
http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/articles/infant_baptism.shtml

http://rscottclark.org/2012/09/a-contemporary-reformed-defense-of-infant-baptism/

http://www.spiritone.com/~wing/fs_bapt.htm

AMR

Where do you came down, AMR?__ and of course, why?

 

[Cruciform]

Where did we get the idea of the need for infant baptism?

From Divine Revelation and the early Christian Church.

 

[resodko]

john the baptist was dunking babies?

proof please

 

[Cross Reference]

From Divine Revelation and the early Christian Church.

Ah, yes, from man's religion, his notions of what the scriptures say, do we get it. I see.

 

[Ask Mr. Religion]

See:
http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/articles/infant_baptism.shtml

http://rscottclark.org/2012/09/a-contemporary-reformed-defense-of-infant-baptism/

http://www.spiritone.com/~wing/fs_bapt.htm

AMR

Where do you came down, AMR?__ and of course, why?

Asked, and answered. See above.

I fear explanations explanatory of things explained.


AMR

 

[Cross Reference]

Asked, and answered. See above.

I fear explanations explanatory of things explained.


AMR

Huh???

 

[Ask Mr. Religion]

Huh???

Where I "come down...and why" is explained in the linked content I provided in my response. It is explained cogently and there is no need for me to explain what has been explained. Tolle lege, CR.

AMR

 

[oatmeal]

In Acts, whole households were baptized, which would imply infants

then Jesus said to suffer the little children to come to him, for of such is the kingdom of Heaven.. Baptism keeps them in that Kingdom...

Then there is the passage that says "Baptism... now saveth you"

I think that is Jn 3:3




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It does not say they were baptized in water.

 

[oatmeal]

john the baptist was dunking babies?

proof please

Good point!

 

[Levolor]

Where did we get the idea of the need for infant baptism?

Perhaps because of the high infant mortality rate?

 

[Ask Mr. Religion]

Perhaps because of the high infant mortality rate?

Er, no, rather this.

 

[Cruciform]

Good point!

Hardly. John's baptism was for repentance, and was a Jewish rather than a Christian baptism. The latter came later under the New Covenant initiated by Jesus Christ.

 

[Word based mystic]

I can see where parents and a fellowship would do a dedication/prayer pronouncement along with a (point of physical action) which gives the fellowship and parents a framework to commit themselves and the fellowship to pray and protect this child from evil and commit to raising them up in the admonition of the lord.

But as to a necessity or point of salvation it is obvious infant baptism has no scriptural foundation.