What is the Gospel?

beloved57

Well-known member
I believe that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world and is the Savior of all men, but that we have to believe to have access to that grace.

Do you want scripture references?
Then you don't believe the Gospel ! Those Christ died for are made righteous Rom 5:19 !
 

Zeke

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What was hard to understand for Peter was how a former blasphemer against the Holy Ghost could be forgiven even though it was unforgivable under the kingdom gospel (Matthew 12:31-32 KJV, 1 Timothy 1:13-16 KJV). Also, how Paul's message was of salvation by grace through faith (Romans 4:4-5 KJV, 2:8-9 KJV), that we are saved (1 Corinthians 15:2 KJV, 1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV, Ephesians 2:4 KJV vs. Peter's message/Israel's message was and will be that of doing something to be saved: baptism of repentance for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38 KJV), keep the commandments (John 14:15 KJV, Matthew 23:2-3 KJV, John 15:5-10 KJV), endure to the end to be saved (Matthew 10:22 KJV), go through the trial of their faith (1 Peter 1:7 KJV), receiving the end of their faith, even the salvation of their souls (1 Peter 1:9 KJV).

Trouble is that the kingdom you regulate to peter's message, which is earthly, contradicts where Jesus said the kingdom of God was located Luke 17:20-21.
 

God's Truth

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Then you don't believe the Gospel ! Those Christ died for are made righteous Rom 5:19 !

But it takes faith to access that grace.

Romans 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faithinto this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
 

heir

TOL Subscriber
Peter did not blasphemy the Holy Spirit.
It's called blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (Matthew 12:31 KJV)and it was Saul, who was before a blasphemer (1 Timothy 1:13 KJV) and could not have been forgiven under kingdom of heaven doctrine. You have trouble following...
 

aikido7

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Just listen to yourself. You are falsely accusing me since I have a different belief than you. lol

Didn't you say you were better than that?
I am secure in the fact that you believe you know God's ways above any other human being. I accuse you of human hypocrisy and with not having the background to do a fearless and searching moral inventory of yourself.

Nothing false about that.
 

God's Truth

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It's called blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (Matthew 12:31 KJV)and it was Saul, who was before a blasphemer (1 Timothy 1:13 KJV) and could not have been forgiven under kingdom of heaven doctrine. You have trouble following...

Paul did not blasphemy the Holy Spirit.
 

beloved57

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Romans 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
It doesn't take Faith to make one righteous, those Christ lived and died for are made righteous by that Rom 5:19 !
 

heir

TOL Subscriber
Obey Jesus and receive salvation, and stay saved.
That is not the gospel of Christ that Paul declared in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV that is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16 KJV). You are lost as you believe not (2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV).

The whole Bible is for everyone.
It certainly isn't all written to us. The question was and is, Where can you find that which is written directly TO you?


Jesus gives understanding to those who obey.
Our understanding comes from God when we consider what Paul says (2 Timothy 2:7 KJV).
 

heir

TOL Subscriber
Jesus is not a temporary God to only a select few people.

Jesus is the Savior of the WORLD, and he is the Lord of all.

Refusing to acknowledge to whom the Lord was sent while on earth is rebellion against 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV. In your refusal to grow up, you will continue to be tossed to and fro (Ephesians 4:14 KJV).
 

Zeke

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Heir and her doctrinal cohorts believe flesh and blood will inherit the kingdom of God, and don't even know what the kingdom of God is or what the gospel of the kingdom is really about, or where it is located, the veil of mid Acts is a glass colored darkly.
 

heir

TOL Subscriber
Are you a Corinthian? Are you a Galatian? Paul's words are to all too.

Peter and Paul's words are to everyone everywhere.
Paul is the apostle of the Gentiles (Romans 11:13 KJV) given the dispensation of the grace of God to usward ("you Gentiles" Ephesians 3:1-6 KJV).
 

God's Truth

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It doesn't take Faith to make one righteous, those Christ lived and died for are made righteous by that Rom 5:19 !

We have to have faith. When we come to God we have to have faith.

Hebrews 11:6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

Our faith comes from HEARING the word, see Romans 10:17. From hearing the word and being TAUGHT, Colossians 1:5, 7. From continuing in what we have been CONVINCED of, see 2 Timothy 3:14, and being PERSUADED, 2 Corinthians 5:11.
 

God's Truth

New member
That is not the gospel of Christ that Paul declared in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV that is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16 KJV). You are lost as you believe not (2 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV).

It certainly isn't all written to us. The question was and is, Where can you find that which is written directly TO you?


Our understanding comes from God when we consider what Paul says (2 Timothy 2:7 KJV).

The Bible is for all. It was first for the Jew, and then to us all.
 
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