What Does it Mean to be Born Again?

Robert Pate

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The old law was Spiritual too.

You don't even know that Jesus' blood washes us.

You should stop trying to be a teacher and admit the things you say are against God.


Washing is symbolic for justification. You want to avoid the doctrine of justification because it refutes your holiness doctrine. It appears that you hate Paul and his epistles.
 

God's Truth

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Washing is symbolic for justification. You want to avoid the doctrine of justification because it refutes your holiness doctrine. It appears that you hate Paul and his epistles.

What kind of spirit do you have that keeps on as if it is right when it knows it is wrong?
 

lifeisgood

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There is no Gospel in the Old Testament. The Gospel was revealed to the apostles on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2.

We don't know who the "Them" is in Hebrews 4:2.

Oh, c'mon Robert Pate. The Gospel is displayed in shadow in the OT. That's why Paul said that the Bereans were smart dudes to check him out. Where do you think the Bereans go to check Paul out? To the NT that didn't exist yet?
 

Robert Pate

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Oh, c'mon Robert Pate. The Gospel is displayed in shadow in the OT. That's why Paul said that the Bereans were smart dudes to check him out. Where do you think the Bereans go to check Paul out? To the NT that didn't exist yet?

No one really understood what Jesus had accomplished in his life, death and resurrection until the day of Pentecost, Acts 2.
 

jamie

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We don't know who the "Them" is in Hebrews 4:2.

"This is he who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the Angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai" (Acts 7:38)

This may well be over your head.

The OT church resisted God's Spirit.

"You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you." (Acts 7:51)

People were added to the church. (Acts 2:47)
 

Cross Reference

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"This is he who was in the congregation in the wilderness with the Angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai" (Acts 7:38)

This may well be over your head.

The OT church resisted God's Spirit.

"You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you." (Acts 7:51)

People were added to the church. (Acts 2:47)

Good thinking here, Jamie. But then, it could be the church [Bride of Christ] as we understand it, began in John 20:22. Either way, I can receive it.
 

jamie

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Good thinking here, Jamie. But then, it could be the church [Bride of Christ] as we understand it, began in John 20:22. Either way, I can receive it.

"Then he remembered the days of old, Moses and his people, saying: 'Where is He who brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of His flock? Where is He who put His Holy Spirit within them'" (Isaiah 63:11)

Moses was the original pastor of God's congregation to which people were added in the NT congregation.

The OT group was converted to the NT group.

"He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins." (Colossians 1:13)

The pronoun "us" refers to those redeemed by Jesus' blood with regard to the forgiveness of sins.
 

God's Truth

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Oh, c'mon Robert Pate. The Gospel is displayed in shadow in the OT. That's why Paul said that the Bereans were smart dudes to check him out. Where do you think the Bereans go to check Paul out? To the NT that didn't exist yet?

Robert Pate got it right that Calvinists are false, but he can't see his own flaws.
 

Robert Pate

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That is what you say about God cleaning me.

You don't believe that you have been justified, sanctified and redeemed, 1 Corinthians 1:30.

If you did you would not be preoccupied with your holiness. We are called to REST in the Gospel. You are not resting, you are still trying to be good enough, Hebrews 4:10.
 
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