Truster is not a liar
- Thread starter Nang
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Hold on.
I thought you and Truster believe that anything that happens is GOD's will.
Hurricane killing people - GOD's will.
Truster banned at TOL - GOD's will.
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Nang
TOL Subscriber
You have no accurate conception of the absolute sovereignty of God, do you? Nor have you been taught the secondary causal agency given to man, made in His image, have you?
IOW's you bring up a vital subject you are totally incapable of understanding or discussing, right?
Was it GOD's will or not, Nang?
Thanks fer th kindly advice.
Nang
TOL Subscriber
Your demanding query reveals you are not capable of spiritual answers. No matter the amounts of scripture I could and would give in reply, would only produce your scorn.
It was either GOD's will or it was not.
All ya gotta do is say yes or no.
Nang
TOL Subscriber
How do you answer your own questions, Tam?
Is God's will always done or not?
Why do calamities happen? Are they God's will, too? Or not?
If not, what or who is their cause?
And if so, to what purpose?
You tell me . . .
Have you had any calamites in your life?
What if God warned His people about these things and they just will not listen to Him.
That does not mean God bought these calamities about.
LA
Miss Drama, cool your jets.
It was a very simple question that I thought you could answer.
My bad.
The reason we have Tornadoes, Hurricanes, Fires, Crime, mischief, hatred, and everything that goes with it is, we live in a sin-cursed world. It was not created such in the beginning, however, man sinned and sin brought about all forms of negativity into our world. Sin is the true "CULPRIT." We mustn't place the blame on our Creator.
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Epoisses
New member
Wrong! God controls everything behind the scenes good and bad. I guess if the fire from heaven fell on some city tomorrow we would write that off as some global warming event!
nikolai_42
Well-known member
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7
jsanford108
New member
This is false. Truster can be a liar, solely based on the information presented in a discussion. And anyone can objectively be a liar, even while expressing a different view.
For example, I can say John 3:16 says "God so loved the world...." I am stating objective fact. Truster, can call me a liar, and say it says "God so loved the elect...." (Not that he has done this, but just for example's sake, as he has done similar acts in the past, including calling me a liar despite me simply stating verbatim what is stated in Scripture; not even adding doctrinal interpretation). The fact is, that he is wrong. I can say he is wrong. If he continues to declare he is right, he is, in fact, objectively, a liar.
If you state a falsehood, then promote said falsehood, you are a liar. This is objective factual truth.
marhig
Well-known member
What about man destroying the world we live in? Don't you think that we contribute to the disasters that happen by the way we pollute the earth, air, seas and rivers?
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Hebrews 10:31 states; "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God."
Since we KNOW that God isn't the author of sin/evil as per 1 John 1:5, "This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all," then we must assume that Isaiah 45:7 MUST have a different meaning. I would suggest, that meaning would be; God is a "fearful" administrator of wrath towards those who commit egregious sin and evil.
When we come across a verse of Scripture that SEEMS to contradict the "Character of God" then, we must look deeper for another purpose/meaning. Since it is, against the character of God to "create/cause" sin in any way shape or form we have to conclude that Isaiah 45:7 has a different meaning/purpose than what we may first conclude.
I'm afraid, you're the one that is WRONG. Accept that, and life will go much easier on you. God "ALLOWS" Hurricanes, etc, to occur in our time. such devastation is part of the fall of man. I'm of the belief that, God, in this "Dispensation of the Grace of God" isn't operating in this world the way He did during the Old/New Testament times. Therefore, we don't see "Sodom and Gomorrah" types of devastation that takes place by God's Authority.
We mustn't assume that God has "ordered up" Tornadoes/Hurricanes, etc. Again, these terrible things are taking place because we live in a sinful world.