Trad, do you dislike black people?

[Rusha]

Me, too. You are not alone.

Remember when there were phone booths on the corner?

Yep. I also remember back when there were no cordless phones. Currently, I have one phone, with an additional handset. And an unlisted number. Of course.

 

[elohiym]

You know what's the worst? Smart phones.

They are horrible for forums, let me tell ya.

 

[elohiym]

It's always first world this or third world that.

You never hear about the second world. How are they doing?

They feel like number two. :chuckle:

 

[elohiym]

Yep. I also remember back when there were no cordless phones. Currently, I have one phone, with an additional handset. And an unlisted number. Of course.

I remember that, too. Unfortunately, with the kids and due to our rural location, I've had to endure "technological advances." :help:

 

[Town Heretic]

I'm no fan of name-calling.

I don't doubt it.

I say, if you don't like something someone's doing, call them out on it. Tell them what they're doing wrong. Tell them what they should do instead.

Content instead of appearance. Good call.

I don't see why anyone should call anyone else a nibber (sic), or a butthead, or a pipsqueak, or a jackass.

To express a desire to be seen as superior without having to actually do anything that would sustain the notion. Or because they can't sustain it beyond the declarative...some likely to wound or alarm or shock, but I suspect it's still rooted in that need/desire.

I'll use the example Traditio gave before (in this thread, I think). He sees a black woman walking slowly in front of him as he's driving in a parking lot. So he says, "nogger" (sic). Except he said it with his windows closed, and then got all worried that she read his lips (a bit of a cowardly response, if you ask me).

Agreed.

Why not, instead, open your window and say, "Hey! Move out of the way!" Right? Why not do that?
Was he mad at her for being black, or for being in the way?

My bet was irritated at her slowing him and that connected with his larger problem and way of seeing her and anyone of her color.

Before I get too far off course, here... I'm saying all this because I do not promote calling anybody the n-word. I don't. You don't have to convince me that it's not a nice word. I already agree with you about that.

I never had a contrary thought on the point.

But it's irrational, biased, and just plain racist to say that if the word comes out of a white man's face, it's worse, than if it came out of a black man's face.

No, it isn't but the problem is in your premise. It isn't my premise. My premise is the words have different values and impacts. I've seen the N word being used by whites to infuriate other whites, if with less reason and mostly because of the association. Or, it isn't that a white man using a racially charged epithet is worse than a black man, but that this particular racial epithet is, has no real opposing cousin of anything like its weight.

That was my point and why I used the parallel of lesser and greater crimes. They're all wrong, but they aren't all the same. Words, similarly have greater and lesser weights as insults go. I've provided some fairly straight forward examples. Sexually charged insults are typically going to promote a much stronger response than giving someone directions to Hades along with a suggestion they should go.

That sort of thing.

It's always first world this or third world that.

You never hear about the second world. How are they doing?

They're too busy trying harder. lain:

 

[elohiym]

Remember how the rotary dialer felt on your finger tip?

 

[Town Heretic]

Remember how the rotary dialer felt on your finger tip?

Remember how you felt when you knew the number you were about to dial had a lot of nines in it? :mmph:

 

[glorydaz]

So, which side of your mouth are you arguing out of tomorrow? lain:

There, you deliberately did it again. :shocked:

You're making fun of people with Asperger's knowing they won't be able to comprehend what you're talking about. They'll probably feel inadequate when they try and fail ...over and over again. To compound your lack of empathy, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if you're laughing on the inside while you pretend to be clever on the outside. I wonder if both sides of your mouth are in a straight line like you want us to believe. Not so nice and certainly not adorable. lain:

 

[elohiym]

Remember how you felt when you knew the number you were about to dial had a lot of nines in it? :mmph:

All those subtle details. :chuckle:

 

[Town Heretic]

There, you deliberately did it again. :shocked:

Pointing out the fact that someone said one thing one day and another thing the next? lain:

You're making fun of people with Asperger's

That literally had nothing to do with Asperger's, unless you're saying he has Asperger's. If so, it's news to me.

For those late to the ballgame, here's the entire thing she's speaking to:

Black people aren't really offended by the word.

Black people only find the word offensive because they, themselves, have internal animosity toward whites. This is why they say it so freely among themselves but go crazy if a white person does.

So, which side of your mouth are you arguing out of tomorrow? lain:

Somehow, our resident Martyr Superior is considering that to relate to Asperger's and me doing...who knows. It's just loony.

To compound your lack of empathy,

Which isn't actually a thing or present in the example...I begin to suspect you just tried and overcompensated for an inability to get the inferential. There wasn't an inference. There would have been if I'd simply left his two quotes to argue against each other, but I didn't. I noted the problem presented by it. Unless you consider the mouth comment difficult.

Else, you're welcome.

 

[glassjester]

Remember how the rotary dialer felt on your finger tip?

Sometimes, as a kid, I'd just dial it for fun, with the phone still on the hook. It felt and sounded great!

 

[elohiym]

Sometimes, as a kid, I'd just dial it for fun, with the phone still on the hook. It felt and sounded great!

Me, too! :banana:

I remember.

 

[glassjester]

My premise is the words have different values and impacts.

:think: That's hardly controversial...

 

[Town Heretic]

:think: That's hardly controversial...

You wouldn't think so, but man...

 

[glassjester]

Me, too! :banana:

I remember.

People used to have strong wrists. Dialing a phone, sharpening a pencil, and how about when the tape all came out of the cassette? You'd have to sit there for like a half hour with a pen or pencil, winding, winding, winding.

Kids these days. Weak-wristed.

 

[ok doser]

words are words

they lie still on the page until someone speaks them

and then, town would have you believe, they take on a life of their own and rampage through the world :chuckle:

 

[bybee]

words are words

they lie still on the page until someone speaks them

and then, town would have you believe, they take on a life of their own :chuckle:

They take on life the minute they are read.

 

[Town Heretic]

They take on life the minute they are read.

Sure, and words take on different meanings/connotations within varying contexts. So some black people will use a word as an endearment that they'd see as an insult uttered by anyone else. And it may be used as an endearment to one and an insult to the next.

 

[ok doser]

maybe those who are easily insulted by words should learn to quit being such babies and grow up

 

[glorydaz]

People used to have strong wrists. Dialing a phone, sharpening a pencil, and how about when the tape all came out of the cassette? You'd have to sit there for like a half hour with a pen or pencil, winding, winding, winding.

Kids these days. Weak-wristed.

(But, at least they have very strong thumbs.)