:think: i'm oddly reminded of potty training my beagle pup :chuckle:
Hey.. lain: ..
:chuckle:
:think: i'm oddly reminded of potty training my beagle pup :chuckle:
Not always, no. A great deal of it is theory, which is mostly just an attempt at informed speculation in line with what evidence there is at hand. The good news is that enough discovery can usually ferret out the bad speculation, over time, because science is firmly a study of the empirical....Science is repeatable.
[Re: religion is also frequently informed speculation]
Yeah, actually. You should read Aquinas, et al. Or his brother Dave et al.Not so much actually.
...Rather, I gave you an appeal to context. The best thing an atheist can offer is something interesting to do while we die and none of what we do amounts to more than that... It's defeatist given the matter isn't closed. It's a context you don't have to accept, even absent personal experience, as a rationalist. So why on earth would anyone?...Appeal to consequence.
I proffer it isn't rational, not serving the one thing you have as an atheist: self interest. Yes, I'm saying that a rationalist atheist should necessarily be a practicing and hopeful theist.
Nazis tortured and murdered in the name of science. So that's science for you? :nono: .See zoos post about a most unfortunate NYC police officer.
In other words not "at worst" an optimistic shout.
The Golden Rule as you use it could sanction sin. I don't think you're applying it correctly. I should love and do for my neighbor, but if I'm a masochist it isn't license to be a sadist as well.I am an anarchist...if it is wrong for me to police what substances my neighbor puts into his body, if it is a violation of the golden rule for me to do so (Because, I obviously do not want him to similarly police what I put into my body) it is wrong of government to do so as well.
Okay. Lot's of Christians, imperfect as we are, differ on all sorts of things and get any number wrong, depending on who you ask....And yes, I'm a Christian too.
Then you either aren't an anarchist or you aren't a very good one.Now, does being an anarchist mean I oppose all government, or all laws? Of course not.
I think you're someone who wants the world the way you think it ought to be...so say we all, though we all differ. And that, my friend, is the beginning of the negotiation that becomes a compact, a government.So, what I'm saying when I say I'm an anarchist may not be what you may have thought of when I say "I'm an anarchist" but there you go.
Looks like a blog to you, doesn't it. lain:Mainly because they clog up the thread with their trolling comments.
It is so peaceful that I don't have to see them in my threads.
It's possible, I do it all the time. It's called scrolling.
Ah, calligraphy. A dying art...see how I did that? lain:Same here. I practice a lot in real life, too. lain:
Cursive...foiled again. oly:Dying? I think you killed it already.
So you're more of a continent half dead sort.
I'm just heartened a girl from California knows there's a river there.Depends which side of the Mississippi we're talking about.
:think:
You do know it's a river, right? lain:
I just gave pos rep to nobody at all, and would also like to blow this whole thread up with limpet mines...
lain:
Cry it out. Cry it all out.
I gave AB a pos rep to dry his eyes with.
We needed a counter balance for all the outrage, bitterness and public rending of garments.Would you be willing to hit TH with a whipped cream pie for creating this thread?
Welcome to America.It would probably put a smile on nearly everyone's face.
Then I'll argue with him at a distance.Laurence Vance puts it much better than I could:
That was self referential? Because it wasn't an argument, but he appears hell on wheels at declaratory insult resting upon personal authority....This [supporting the troops but not necessarily the war] is utter nonsense. This is pious drivel. This is idiocy on parade. This is lunacy.
He's assuming something not in evidence. When people say they aren't for a war but support the troops it doesn't follow that they find the war/action immoral or even objectionable in principle. It may only mean they don't want us in the middle of it, policing for the world as it were....You can’t support the troops without supporting what they do; you can’t separate soldiers from solidering.
So we can believe in the right of people to self determine without desiring that we use our sons and daughters to provide them the opportunity. And we can wish despots ill without feeling obliged to cause it.
It's an argument with a demonstrably flawed premise.I don't think I have much to add to this, its an airtight argument that can't really be refuted rationally.
You just made a similarly mistaken assumption. There's a difference between not desiring to see us play a particular role in world affairs and being "anti-war".The point about abortion doctors is particularly relevant. I don't think there's a single pro-life Christian who will nonethless say "Support the abortion doctors" and I see no reason why an anti-war Christian should "Support the troops."
I'd agree, but that's not what either of us said....To say that you don't care about injustice because you don't believe its right to go to war is absolutely stupid.
You said:So not all acts of physical violence, only those related to a defensive posture, which is problematic to begin with. Why arbitrarily cut off that moral obligation over the myth of lines on a map?To be clear, I'm not talking about defending your own person, family, home, or country here....
Anyway, it wasn't about believing it's not right to go to war, but about:
...aggressive, preemptive war that is the issue.
So there.
Are they also Scotsman? lain:All true Jesus' servants are [anarchists].
I would pay good money to listen in on your next traffic stop.Jesus' law is His followers law, not the government's. The governments are for non-believers.
So you might own a goose, but never a gander.Now don't come to me by saying I am not Jesus' followers. As long as you keep saying that, you are still in the world and working for this world, not for Jesus.
Well, you know what they say, "You are what you eat." :shocked:I eat demons.
For breakfast.
You should consider digesting a grammar book.
:think: Have you met chrysostom yet?
Implied profanity? So at least we know you're a he, because you didn't read the instructions when you signed on here.The Millennium
Is just the point.
Where
God tells you
"She is tired".
...Of
This
****.
Seems likely. lain:And, it will end.
Edit: yep.
Some people feel that way about Catholics.Alec Baldwin is ... last x i heard
a flaming lib
can't be Christian if you are one of those...
People. lain:
And there you have it, friends, this year's recipient of the Who Loves Jesus More Than Meshak? award is..........MESHAK! Again!...Jesus' followers are not of this world. You are very my of this world.
Wow. I hope the rest of you enjoyed the show. Tune in again any post now when the next recipient (by which I mean meshak) will be awarded.
Maybe. Only a moderator would really know the answer to that.Do you wont to know who is getting most neg reps?
You guessed right, I am.
Sure they are. It just doesn't matter. lain:People who are with red bars are not giving out neg reps.
:shut:I wish I could tap dance. lain:
No, that's just what it's called when kmo does it. :shocked:I think it's called clogging, but I'm not sure.
Sober? :think:I sure like it, though.
Yeah, that must be it. A lot of truth in it indeed. By which I mean, of course, you're a badly closeted racist if you actually believe that. lain:you can tell which posters around here can take a joke and which ones not...
true, it was a joke that had a lot of truth in it... but hey...
most of them probably do....
Then hang onto your hat...because tomorrow you might need it to carry a bunny in. Metaphorically, of course, which will save you a bundle on food and board (either).I always wanted a bunny.
Hey! Nobody is eating any bunnies on my watch! :nono:
No, just a typo. :chuckle:"Have you men chrysostom yet?"
What??!! Is this irony?
Reminds me. Have you seen kmo's home movie dance? I mistakenly attributed it to zoo in the vault thread, but have since learned of the error. If you haven't, I give you:kmo?
He had to be - that's the toughest field sobriety test I've ever seen.
kmo's big move dancepalooza
:rotfl: A comedy Judo move. Well played, kmo. Well played.:banana:
It's all wonderful but one of my favorite parts is at about 26 seconds in when I try to bring back the "raise the roof" motion. That move died a much too early death. lain:
...I believe that a God who is merciful enough to forgive my sins, just might be willing to forgive your stupidity!
Who is taking them? And there's your problem. lain:yes, but why take chances?
:think:
As a Klan rally.I guess my inane sense of humor is just to subtle for some
Yes. That's it. You subtled us to death.knuckleheads..
Which is why I noted, a while back, the Puritans are historically noted for their humorists....ever noticed how lefties are lacking in a sense of humor????
I mean you know... as a general rule....
Too subtle? lain:
lain:the you should know this makes no sense
Yeah, that's so much less racist when you make the letters that large and all. lain:so... Here's my poll
Is Lincoln regretting what he did?
Y
N