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toldailytopic: Will there be homosexuals in Heaven, why or why not?
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I am the humblest "dude" on TOL-just ask me.
WizardofOz
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The real question is 'will there be any sinners in heaven?'.
I did. :idunno:
It was just refreshing to hear a concise and correct answer from an atheist.
Revelation 21:27 and nothing unclean, and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb's book of life.
StanJ53
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You didn't sense any sarcasm?
Well it's hard to tell with John at times, but NO I didn't.
StanJ53
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StanJ53
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The REAL question is will there be ANYONE in Heaven aside from who is there now?
WizardofOz
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What, didn't you RSVP?
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There are no persons who will be sinning in heaven. Former sinners, sure. But those in heaven will not have the libertarian free will so cherished by some here on this mortal coil. Those in heaven will not want to do otherwise than not sin.
Homosexuality is a sin. No unrepenant sinners will be in heaven. As Scripture teaches us in I Cor. 6.9-11, the sin of homosexuality can be resisted. It is not some uncontrollable disease. It is a choice made by a sinning person. A person who delights in the Lord will and can change their behavior.
I am not saying a person who struggles in their walk of faith with homosexual temptations cannot be a Christian. I am saying someone who persists in sin, claiming to be a Christian, refusing to acknowledge their sin, especially a sin that is an abomination, is someone who we can properly question as warranting the claim to "Christian".
AMR
Homosexuality is a sin. No unrepenant sinners will be in heaven. As Scripture teaches us in I Cor. 6.9-11, the sin of homosexuality can be resisted. It is not some uncontrollable disease. It is a choice made by a sinning person. A person who delights in the Lord will and can change their behavior.
I am not saying a person who struggles in their walk of faith with homosexual temptations cannot be a Christian. I am saying someone who persists in sin, claiming to be a Christian, refusing to acknowledge their sin, especially a sin that is an abomination, is someone who we can properly question as warranting the claim to "Christian".
AMR
Homosexuality is impossible in heaven!
Homosexuality is impossible in heaven!
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I will agree, some struggle with this, yet are we not perfection in heaven? You see, all carnal sin would be irrelevant, as we will not be carnal. We will not possess any base needs.
Any sin would have to be of a non-material nature, such that if one has these sins before death, they are not saved at death.
I am saying, we do, at times, sin, yet this is what the Holy Spirit guides us; to live a better life, according to God. I do not sin in act(1), but admit to sinning in thought; however, this seems less now, and I figure when my time comes, this sin will no longer be a temptation.
1. One may argue my act of not giving away all my possessions is a sin of act, yet I am mainly thinking of acts, such as stealing, killing, sexual acts, as well, to lie and covet, which seem much more difficult; people often covet better goods, or lie about deeds.
In summation, homosexuality is impossible in heaven!
Homosexuality is impossible in heaven!
I assume we do not have libertarian freewill now, or am I missing something?
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I will agree, some struggle with this, yet are we not perfection in heaven? You see, all carnal sin would be irrelevant, as we will not be carnal. We will not possess any base needs.
Any sin would have to be of a non-material nature, such that if one has these sins before death, they are not saved at death.
I am saying, we do, at times, sin, yet this is what the Holy Spirit guides us; to live a better life, according to God. I do not sin in act(1), but admit to sinning in thought; however, this seems less now, and I figure when my time comes, this sin will no longer be a temptation.
1. One may argue my act of not giving away all my possessions is a sin of act, yet I am mainly thinking of acts, such as stealing, killing, sexual acts, as well, to lie and covet, which seem much more difficult; people often covet better goods, or lie about deeds.
In summation, homosexuality is impossible in heaven!
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You would assume correctly, hence my "so cherished by some here on this mortal coil" qualifier in my previous post.
Indeed.
AMR
Pay attention Stan, he's talking about you and your "ilk".
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3375390&postcount=5468
I sensing that AMR is saying that there won't be rainbow crosses in Heaven (homophobe).
Actually, he's on an extended holiday. He has written a computer program that automatically generates questions that mock evolutionists.
Actually, he's on an extended holiday. He has written a computer program that automatically generates questions that mock evolutionists.
Great! I hear he flies all over the place like Wolf-Man Jack.