Yes,as is the case with classical liberals, who are on the right today. I believe Nick is referring to what de Matse held as true, all is under God and, what he would not say, is that God is over one Catholic Church.
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Yes,as is the case with classical liberals, who are on the right today. I believe Nick is referring to what de Matse held as true, all is under God and, what he would not say, is that God is over one Catholic Church.
The problem with your mindset is this Lovejoy: what was done in the privacy of one's sodomy chambers, DIDN'T STAY THERE.
As Joe Murray wrote: "The Buggery Blitzkrieg that started in 2003 came fast and furious. Not unlike the French of World War II, traditionalists were quickly overrun and astonished at the lightening-fast strike that came from the homosexual lobby. From Lawrence v. Texas to Gavin Newsom's weddings by the bay, traditionalists were overwhelmed by the war that was unleashed on them."
Sexual perversion has infiltrated every valuable American institution: Marriage, the family (through homosexual adoption) the Church (pedophile priest scandal as well as various denominations ordaining homosexual clergy), the military, public education, not to mention youth mentor groups.
These things weren't nearly as wide spread prior to the Lawrence vs Texas ruling.
Prior to the early 1970's, every State had sodomy laws. (and it didn't have anything to do with what you and your wife did in the privacy of your own bedroom).
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Sodomy_laws_in_the_United_States
Wait a minute, you do acknowledge homosexuality as a sexual perversion, don't you Lovejoy? I only ask because many young people don't.
Lovejoy
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I find it clearly inconsistent with what are biblically sanctioned sexual relations. I don't believe it is part of the plan Christ has for my life, while my marriage to a woman is.
I stand on my feet.
Lovejoy
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Doggone it, P66. If you are back, ASC is totally going to lose interest in me.
Newman
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Some righty answer this for me:
Why should sexual perversions be against the laws of a nation? Homosexuality, masturbation, bestiality, pornography, etc. are sins, I agree, but why should the police slap somebody in handcuffs for doing something just because it's a sin? Something there doesn't follow for me.
Why should sexual perversions be against the laws of a nation? Homosexuality, masturbation, bestiality, pornography, etc. are sins, I agree, but why should the police slap somebody in handcuffs for doing something just because it's a sin? Something there doesn't follow for me.
Seeing as how some of these are not allowed for discussion on the open forums of TOL I cannot give you a full answer as I would love to, but I really want to know how and why you deem some of these as sin. Well, only one actually. The other three I'm with ya on those.
As for arresting someone for doing something simply because it is a sin, that is not a job the government should ever have. We don't want these to be illegal [homosexual sex, bestiality, pornography] simply because they are sins, but because they are criminal acts. They are acts against what is right and decent in civilized society. They are deviant acts. They are not only sins, just as murder is not only a sin.
You wouldn't ask this question if we were discussing the merits of legal action in regard to murder. You would not assume we wanted murder to be illegal simply because it is a sin. So why do you assume that is why we want these sexually deviant acts to be illegal?
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Adultery is another one you forgot to include. That should be illegal as well.
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You pretty much answered your own question: they are perversions.
Conservative, as much as the current confusing parlance covers it. (Who knew? :chuckle: )
Matthew 7:24-27 (KJV)
Matthew 7:24-27 (KJV)
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Okaaay... then why do you think deviancy and perversions should be illegal?
Murder is different. Murder trespasses on somebody else's right to their life, which makes it illegal. I don't think murder should be illegal because it is a sin, but rather because it infringes upon the rights of others.
Besides, what is deviant and perverted for one can be considered normal and fine for another. Why should your worldview be thrust upon others in a legal way? Wouldn't you reject somebody else's attempts to do the same with their interpretations of deviancy?
So, really you haven't answered the question.
Newman: Why do you think perversions should be illegal?
Lighthouse: Because they are perversions.
State representation is important, and the Senate was intended to be more prestigious a body than the House. We already have the House to directly represent the masses. The Senate was conceived as a more deliberative institution, taking stock of weightier matters, such as foreign treaties. Making our senators beholden to the public is a total mistake and perversion of their intended purpose.
You really don't know...anything.
For most people it seems to be "sexual behavior that disgusts/attracts me."
Here's what I do know (about your avatar):
Family Guy is an immoral cartoon that’s made to teach kids that homosexuality, shooting up on steroids and then trying to kill your parents is all normal behavior.
It is quite literally the most dangerous show on television and it is truly a testament to our decadent media that Seth MacFarlane is allowed to market this sin-inducing cartoon show to our young children.
In an interview with the most disgusting magazine on the planet (Playboy), MacFarlane confessed that Stewie Griffin’s job is to spread the homogay agenda to young children and parents who watch Family Guy.
The angle he is taking is that if your child is gay, he will be able to do these great science projects, speak at a young age and even talk to his pet dog.
Such things are ridiculous and if your toddler child thinks he is speaking to the family pet, it’s probably due to the designer drugs this show teaches is normal to shoot into your arms before hopping in a car with ‘candy’ wielding old men.
The only place getting into that car will lead to is more drug needles, homosexual orgies, AIDS prostitution and of course, death.
It is no coincidence that gays actively support Family Guy. For every one homosexual man, four kids end up getting improperly diddled and molested. This show tries to convince our kids that is is normal for them to feel gay and that the homosexual lifestyle is innocent fun and happiness that even baby children enjoy.
There is nothing happy about dieing from AIDS and then burning for all time in hell for being an abomination unto God! Warning: The following video media is sinister and contains archival footage of a cartoon character spreading the homogay agenda to our young children. Please pray and then have women/children leave the room before reviewing.
Parents, we must write angry letters into Family Guy and demand that they make this show about family and values. They should have an episode where it’s revealed Stewie Griffin chose to be gay due to not having enough time to spend with his father, or perhaps the gay man next door tricked him into doing shameful things.
These gay-inducing encounters are very real issues that some children face in life. Since the networks are not moral enough to remove Family Guy as children entertainment, it is time for them to make it right and teach young kids that being gay is not normal but rather a choice due to a traumatizing event in life.
Stewie’s character can still have redemption and be the champion of how men can turn from their shameful life and once again be proud of who they truly are inside; men.
Let us pray that Seth MacFarlane turns this filthy show around and that Stewie Griffin is used as a moral character in the coming season of Family Guy, so more innocent children will not be lead into sin.
In the meantime, continue to ban this dangerous show from your home and warn your parenting friends about its sinister nature as well.
http://christwire.org/2009/08/seth-macfarlane-admits-family-guy-stewie-griffin-gay-homo/
Go back to doing what you do best Fido: sniffing urine soaked fire hydrants.
Quincy
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Here is what I know about you now. You're so hard up to convince yourself and others that you're superior to everyone that doesn't think like you that you would go out of your way to write an approximately 756 word reply to diss someone's avatar. You're swell.
Newman
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Dude I love Family Guy too! Hilarious show. Overboard sometimes, but keeps me laughing nonetheless.
God is superior to your worthless religion.
MrRadish
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Just... just...
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Before I write, I should point out that while I quite enjoy most of Family Guy, I do acknowledge there are many perfectly legitimate reasons not to like it and to find it distasteful. Those given above, however, at not among them.
Family Guy is not aimed at children, something which should be incredibly obvious to anybody who has watched the show. Its characters are neither supposed to be realistic nor, generally, moral exemplars. Finally, I read the Playboy article linked by the site, and, surprise surprise, MacFarlane does not say that the character of Stewie intended to spread an agenda to young children or their parents.
I struggle to believe that whoever wrote this bilge has ever watched Family Guy. If not, it is deceptive and unprofessional of them to write about something of which they know they are ignorant. If they have watched it then they are clearly so utterly incapable of even the most rudimentary literary analysis or discernment then it is deceptive and unprofessional for them to write articles about media, period.
...it's a cartoon...for adults. If you're letting your children watch Family Guy your parenting skills are on the level of Wile E. Coyote's grasp of basic physics.
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