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vegascowboy

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Vegasa Cowboy, what kind of incredibly dense doofus are you ? "Liberals" have done everything in power to destroy the family ?
You imbecile ! Socio-economoic conditions have changed vastly.
I may be a liberal, but I'v e never done anything to "destroy" the family.
Nobody is trying to. You conservatives(really reactionaries) DO have an idealized idea of the past, when everything was hunky dory and everybody was virtuous, a devout Christian, there was no sex before or outside of marriage, no abortions, there were few gay people and they were all in th e closet etc, .
Poppycock ! There were just as many gay people as now, and they lived in fear of being fired from their jobs or being sent to mental institutions for briutal electric shock "therapy" to "cure" them of their homosexuality, and illegal abortions happened EVERY DAY all over America, and poor women died routinely or nearly perished from botched illegal abortions while women who could afford them easily arranged safe ones for themselves , etc.
Pornography was already rampant, just underground .
Look, I have absolutely no problem with married heterosexuals having stable marriages and bringing up their children .
But it's just not possible for all children to be brought up this way .
If you think I want to "destroy" the family, or that other liberals want to, you're an idiot ! As an individual America, I have zero power to "destroy" the family , and I wouldn't want it even if I could !

You really are the most clueless individual that I think I've ever come across. Go on and keep believing that tripe. One day you'll have your answers. God help you when you meet Him.
 

bybee

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God bless stay at home moms.

They are heroes is my book.

Thank you kindly young man! I was excited to see my child's first step, to hear her first words, to see her first tooth!
I didn't believe anyone else could sooth her "owies" or praise her successes as well as I could.
I was and am 100% invested in my children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. I dearly love my extended family as well.
Some of you wonderful folks on TOL have become dear to me also.
So blessings.:up:
 

chrysostom

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Do women who choose to stay at home and raise the family miss out on something?

the opposite is true
 

This Charming Manc

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Sorry horn I consider myself on the left, and just as tired and locked into your own agenda as the worst on the right.

Not everythign about the past was right, but also not everything about the past was wrong either.

Get past the hype and start looking for truth in your arguements.

Vegasa Cowboy, what kind of incredibly dense doofus are you ? "Liberals" have done everything in power to destroy the family ?
You imbecile ! Socio-economoic conditions have changed vastly.
I may be a liberal, but I'v e never done anything to "destroy" the family.
Nobody is trying to. You conservatives(really reactionaries) DO have an idealized idea of the past, when everything was hunky dory and everybody was virtuous, a devout Christian, there was no sex before or outside of marriage, no abortions, there were few gay people and they were all in th e closet etc, .
Poppycock ! There were just as many gay people as now, and they lived in fear of being fired from their jobs or being sent to mental institutions for briutal electric shock "therapy" to "cure" them of their homosexuality, and illegal abortions happened EVERY DAY all over America, and poor women died routinely or nearly perished from botched illegal abortions while women who could afford them easily arranged safe ones for themselves , etc.
Pornography was already rampant, just underground .
Look, I have absolutely no problem with married heterosexuals having stable marriages and bringing up their children .
But it's just not possible for all children to be brought up this way .
If you think I want to "destroy" the family, or that other liberals want to, you're an idiot ! As an individual America, I have zero power to "destroy" the family , and I wouldn't want it even if I could !
 

This Charming Manc

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Obviously they miss out on something,But I think they gain so much more.

I think at least for the early years 1 parents at home is very valuable for the children.

Hard to do nowdays though.


toldailytopic: Homemaker. Do women who choose to stay at home and raise the family miss out on something?

 

annabenedetti

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You conservatives(really reactionaries) DO have an idealized idea of the past, when everything was hunky dory and everybody was virtuous, a devout Christian, there was no sex before or outside of marriage, no abortions, there were few gay people and they were all in th e closet etc, .
Poppycock ! There were just as many gay people as now, and they lived in fear of being fired from their jobs or being sent to mental institutions for briutal electric shock "therapy" to "cure" them of their homosexuality, and illegal abortions happened EVERY DAY all over America, and poor women died routinely or nearly perished from botched illegal abortions while women who could afford them easily arranged safe ones for themselves , etc.
Pornography was already rampant, just underground .
Look, I have absolutely no problem with married heterosexuals having stable marriages and bringing up their children .
But it's just not possible for all children to be brought up this way .
If you think I want to "destroy" the family, or that other liberals want to, you're an idiot ! As an individual America, I have zero power to "destroy" the family , and I wouldn't want it even if I could !

Yes, those were the good old days.Would that pornography was still underground! Would that men had to go to the seedy side of town and sneak into an X-rated theater in dread that someone they knew would see them! Would that it wasn't so disgustingly easy for children to access it at the touch of the computer button, their innocence damaged forever. What a world we live in now...
 

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Men have built a world economic order where most children would be malnourished, unattended to by healthcare providers, ill clothed and poorly provided for if the mother didn't work. Who caused it is not as important as how can it be fixed. I have no idea how.
 

Maximeee

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Obviously they miss out on something,But I think they gain so much more.

I think at least for the early years 1 parents at home is very valuable for the children.

Hard to do nowdays though.

I understand it can be hard, but why is it hard? It's hard because we are a greedy society who wants it ALL. We've had times when my husband was working 40-50 hours at a fast food delivery place. Money was tight, we had one car, we didn't do any extra things, but we had food on the table & a roof over our head. We rarely went out for dinner and when we did, it consisted of McDonald's dollar menu :chuckle: You work hard, you sacrifice and you do it because you realize there's a bigger picture than what the world wants for you. We're not just raising up kids, we're caring for eternal souls. And that's what should matter most.
 

annabenedetti

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As for "passing down religious and moral values," I would think teaching the child to draw conclusions using his/her own reasoning ability would be a higher priority than slamming political views down his/her throat.

You're making assumptions which have no basis in fact. That you can make a political inference from what I said shows your own lack of reasoning ability...and reading comprehension.

The reason the KKK still exists is because parents "passed down" their religious and moral values to their children without ever giving their children a chance to be rational, thinking individuals who make choices and prioritize values for themselves.
Projecting? Otherwise I have no idea what role a Protestant, Democrat KKK would play in my Catholic, Republican family.

Should we bring a child into this situation, in which the two of us barely have time to be SPOUSES, much less PARENTS?
Is that a rhetorical question? Because if I answer, you won't like it much.
 

This Charming Manc

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Not sure where you are in life now, but I earn good money and were only just making it with one of us working.

I don't see how people on low wages can do it anymore, its tragic but that is where it is.
 

Maximeee

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Not sure where you are in life now, but I earn good money and were only just making it with one of us working.

I don't see how people on low wages can do it anymore, its tragic but that is where it is.

We definitely are not making minimum wage like we used to back then, we've been very blessed. It's hard, I won't say that it isn't, but I think it's a lot more doable than people think.
 
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The most important message a mom can give her children is success. It can have different challenges.
 

Buzzword

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You're making assumptions which have no basis in fact. That you can make a political inference from what I said shows your own lack of reasoning ability...and reading comprehension.

You seem to have taken my post as a personal attack.
It was not.

I was talking about the overall concept of "passing down" moral or religious ideas, as opposed to presenting one's personal convictions and letting the child choose for him/herself.

Projecting? Otherwise I have no idea what role a Protestant, Democrat KKK would play in my Catholic, Republican family.

Again, my post was not a personal attack on your parenting.

Those who have forced their racist, bigoted ideas on their children have by that act perpetuated outdated prejudice which should have faded with the passage of time.

Is that a rhetorical question? Because if I answer, you won't like it much.

Let it all out.
 

imjustme

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Certainly they miss out on many things as do those who work outside the home. There are pros and cons to be weighed in every decision. As a culture, the number of children being raised by people other than their parents is a sign most telling of our greed and shortsightedness.

Scripturally and historically, the primary role of women is in the home. God even uses the phrase "keepers at home" Titus 2:5 in enumerating the qualities to be learned from older women by the younger. However none of this precludes the fact that practically our culture sometimes imposes on us less than ideal necessities and for some women to stay at home with their children is impossible.

It's interesting that in Proverbs 31 the qualities of a virtuous woman include an "entrepreneurial" spirit and applaud diligence in business as a positive trait.

In the final analysis, as with most things, the motivation behind the decision must be considered; the woman who chooses to work outside the home in lieu of raising her children with the motivation of a better home, car, pool, etc. is certainly imparting to her children a legacy of self-centerdness, however the woman who chooses to stay home with her children but is lazy and doesn't maintain habits and housekeeping worthy of a conscientious parent would probably do her children a favor by getting a job.
 

Cruciform

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Do women who choose to stay at home and raise the family miss out on something?
Fortunately, yes. :D

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