shredguitar17
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All presidents are swayed by money and power, there is no good president imo. Why? Because we have the federal reserve and private bankers. Nuff said
toldailytopic: Barrack Obama, your thoughts.
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Right.......Kmo, is the spending the only issue with this Marxist?
Yes! Former President Carter was an excellent example of: if you find yourself with a large problem, find a way to make it worse.
Belly-Laugh Of The Day! :first:
1. The problems you mention surfaced when the Democrats became the majority part in both houses of Congress. Coupled with a bunch of spineless politicians known as "moderate Republicans", one has an inept domestic policy and a failing foreign policy.
2. The only racism evident throughout the Obama campaign came from the Obama campaign. It was a non-issue among Republicans and conservatives. The blatant fear of the truth (and whatever subconscious driveling you have in mind) exists only in the minds of liberals and Democrats.
3. Effectively, the "good" Obama has done has crippled the economy and led to a new sense of schadenfreude among foreign governments. No President before Obama has ever humiliated himself and the United States in front of the world, as he has done and continues to do. As far as ending the Republican Party, no. Democrats and liberals have to have someone to blame their arrogant incompetence on.
Comfort yourself with the Huffington Post and the Daily Kos. I'm sure they would agree with you.
All presidents inherit
All presidents inherit
Granting that President Obama, like all presidents before him, inherited serious problems which were not of his making. However, he asked, fought, made deals and promised his way into the job. My two main issues with him are 1. Competency, he is not showing himself to have the skills necessary to handle the complexities of the job. 2. The machine which guaranteed his victory is now cashing in on the promises he made to them and they are now raping this country down to the bones. When the tax burden finally overwhelms the middle class and the very wealthy leave the country on whom shall the useless parasites feed? We are facing a breakdown of far reaching consequences. God help my grandchildren and yours. bybee
All presidents inherit
Granting that President Obama, like all presidents before him, inherited serious problems which were not of his making. However, he asked, fought, made deals and promised his way into the job. My two main issues with him are 1. Competency, he is not showing himself to have the skills necessary to handle the complexities of the job. 2. The machine which guaranteed his victory is now cashing in on the promises he made to them and they are now raping this country down to the bones. When the tax burden finally overwhelms the middle class and the very wealthy leave the country on whom shall the useless parasites feed? We are facing a breakdown of far reaching consequences. God help my grandchildren and yours. bybee
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The middle class may just leave, too, Bybee. I've been advocating taking over Mexico for quite a while now. No more snow!
Prefaced with I don't share the view that racism moves much of the right anymore than I believe that the Democratic party is a socialist movement...okay, that said...
By way of anecdotal, I was at a rally for a candidate I support recently who was running for a commission post (and hold onto your socks, Frank, he's a conservative Republican) and among those at the rally and equally enthusiastic in their support were men and women of color...but while I was eating (the famous Southern political fish-fry) an older, well educated and respected member of the community, discussing Obama, said, "I still can't believe this country elected a [redacted] President."
It goes like this in the South, each generation takes a step forward but the progress is a long way from complete. One of my grandfathers disdained the race. His son didn't and I find the practice peculiar, but I watched my father's generation struggle with their discomfort while reaching about for some other hook to hang it on. Republican strategists knew this and offered a few.
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Nah. If the answer to "What's wrong with our country?" could be set at the feet of the Democratic party and occasionally controlled Congress then every ill could have and would have been reversed under a Republican dominated Congress and that didn't happen. This isn't a party problem, it's a people problem...as in, let's see what I can get from special interests (right or left) and for my constituents that will keep me in power, long term consequences be hanged.
And how did the Obama campaign evidence racism? :squint: As for "the only" bit, it depends on how you mean it. I don't recall "Don't elect the N[redacted]" signs at conservative rallies, but I do recall the Muslim nonsense and stress being placed on things as significant as his second name...these are the more socially acceptable labels to bandy about in an attempt to marginalize someone and point out their (real or imagined) distinction and difference from the main stream. As for Carter's comments, while I don't share the broad sentiment and ascribe it to his age and experience, I do understand it to be far more reaching than many here appear willing to accept.
By way of anecdotal, I was at a rally for a candidate I support recently who was running for a commission post (and hold onto your socks, Frank, he's a conservative Republican) and among those at the rally and equally enthusiastic in their support were men and women of color...but while I was eating (the famous Southern political fish-fry) an older, well educated and respected member of the community, discussing Obama, said, "I still can't believe this country elected a [redacted] President."
It goes like this in the South, each generation takes a step forward but the progress is a long way from complete. One of my grandfathers disdained the race. His son didn't and I find the practice peculiar, but I watched my father's generation struggle with their discomfort while reaching about for some other hook to hang it on. Republican strategists knew this and offered a few.
You're naive if you believe that...or it's different in your neck of the woods (and if so, thank God for it, but I saw the same sort of hooks being gleefully supported to the north and west and east of us).
Okay, that's just nonsense and you know it.
Last I looked the economy was widely thought to have improved since and was wrecked prior to his taking office.
What governments and how do you arrive at this?
If he crawled on his belly (instead of offering a gesture echoed by any number of foreign heads of state) he couldn't lower the world opinion more than our past holder of office did by means of real and meaningful action. So if I have a ceremonial nod on the one hand and a unilateral act of war/invasion on the other...
lain:Why don't they just do like you and eat their own? They can call them DINOs...
Wrap yourself in the Drudge Report...cause there are some things I wouldn't wish on a dead fish.
As usual
As usual
A nicely reasoned response. peace, bybee
As usual
Prefaced with I don't share the view that racism moves much of the right anymore than I believe that the Democratic party is a socialist movement...okay, that said...
Nah. If the answer to "What's wrong with our country?" could be set at the feet of the Democratic party and occasionally controlled Congress then every ill could have and would have been reversed under a Republican dominated Congress and that didn't happen. This isn't a party problem, it's a people problem...as in, let's see what I can get from special interests (right or left) and for my constituents that will keep me in power, long term consequences be hanged.
And how did the Obama campaign evidence racism? :squint: As for "the only" bit, it depends on how you mean it. I don't recall "Don't elect the N[redacted]" signs at conservative rallies, but I do recall the Muslim nonsense and stress being placed on things as significant as his second name...these are the more socially acceptable labels to bandy about in an attempt to marginalize someone and point out their (real or imagined) distinction and difference from the main stream. As for Carter's comments, while I don't share the broad sentiment and ascribe it to his age and experience, I do understand it to be far more reaching than many here appear willing to accept.
By way of anecdotal, I was at a rally for a candidate I support recently who was running for a commission post (and hold onto your socks, Frank, he's a conservative Republican) and among those at the rally and equally enthusiastic in their support were men and women of color...but while I was eating (the famous Southern political fish-fry) an older, well educated and respected member of the community, discussing Obama, said, "I still can't believe this country elected a [redacted] President."
It goes like this in the South, each generation takes a step forward but the progress is a long way from complete. One of my grandfathers disdained the race. His son didn't and I find the practice peculiar, but I watched my father's generation struggle with their discomfort while reaching about for some other hook to hang it on. Republican strategists knew this and offered a few.
You're naive if you believe that...or it's different in your neck of the woods (and if so, thank God for it, but I saw the same sort of hooks being gleefully supported to the north and west and east of us).
Okay, that's just nonsense and you know it.
Last I looked the economy was widely thought to have improved since and was wrecked prior to his taking office.
What governments and how do you arrive at this?
If he crawled on his belly (instead of offering a gesture echoed by any number of foreign heads of state) he couldn't lower the world opinion more than our past holder of office did by means of real and meaningful action. So if I have a ceremonial nod on the one hand and a unilateral act of war/invasion on the other...
Why don't they just do like you and eat their own? They can call them DINOs...
Wrap yourself in the Drudge Report...cause there are some things I wouldn't wish on a dead fish.
A nicely reasoned response. peace, bybee
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Hey...what was wrong with your first choice?
DocJohnson
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What would happen if DINOs took over the Democrat party? :think:
One Eyed Jack
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Maybe they'd get hunted to extinction?
"Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!"
Ecumenicist
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We're not talking about the majority here, we're talking about the extremely vocal minority. The ones who carry guns to hearings and put up billboards and post cartoons portraying our president as an ape. And the ones who's vocal irrational hatred is way out of proportion to the so called "issues" they raise.
Ecumenicist
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OK, that's clever, whether I agree with it or not, I appreciate it.
Ecumenicist
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You mean a bunch of arrogant gun wielding unthinking uncaring SUV driving thugs? A government who would fake evidence in order to start an unjustified war against a nation that had nothing to do with 9/11? I hope its not the same. Seriously.
Can't blame employers and health insurance companies for working with only profit in mind, its just the system. Sometimes, people actually develop enough compassion to want to do something to change the system, like happened with Social Security and Medicare. When that happens there's actually hope for this so called "Christian" nation.
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Dave... Are you going to vote for Alan Keyes in the next election? Yes or No?
DocJohnson
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Ecumenicist
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∅2L84U;2205543 said:
Are you voting for Sarah Palin, yes or no?
One Eyed Jack
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Not if she runs against Alan Keyes.
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