Fixed that for you...lain:
Quite lain:
Fixed that for you...lain:
At present there's absolutely no justification for a revolution asgainst the Obama administration. The tea partiers are just a bunch of pathetically ignorant, gullible and deluded people who have been mislead into believing that Obama is a communist dictator who is going to turn America into another communist dictatorship, which is ludicrous.
But there's about as much chance of this happening under Obama as Osama Bin Laden converting to Judaism and settling in Israel.
Mass hysteria against Obama has been fostered by conservative pundits such as Limbaugh,Hannity,Levin, Malkin, Beck and others .
And if such a revolution were to happen, it would merely create a right-wing totalitarian dictatorship little better than a communist one.
Effectual? Yes. Generally used wisely or well? No.
But I think that so long as the people have the power to "overthrow" the government through the voting process, armed rebellion just isn't justifiable. I could even argue that if the people haven't the will or the wisdom to wield their voting power effectively in the first place then they can't be trusted to revolt either.
give me liberty or give me death
did someone already say that?
Oh, I don't think that was accidental. They were revolutionaries themselves, after all.Sounds like someone invented democracy to keep the revolutionaries pre-occupied. :chuckle:
This is a very good point.Said another way, as long as the voters leagalize the making of Africans into property, then we should not go to war over such things.
Consider Gandhi, Nelson Mandela and Martin Luther King, Jr. They all advocated non-violent resistance to governmental malfeasance and immoral practices. They suffered personally and became role models for their followers. They put those in power and authority to shame. Eventually they effected significant changes for the better. peace, bybee
Firstly, we believed that as a result of Government policy, violence by the African people had become inevitable, and that unless responsible leadership was given to canalize and control the feelings of our people, there would be outbreaks of terrorism which would produce an intensity of bitterness and hostility between the various races of this country which is not produced even by war. Secondly, we felt that without violence there would be no way open to the African people to succeed in their struggle against the principle of white supremacy. All lawful modes of expressing opposition to this principle had been closed by legislation, and we were placed in a position in which we had either to accept a permanent state of inferiority, or to defy the Government. We chose to defy the law. We first broke the law in a way which avoided any recourse to violence; when this form was legislated against, and then the Government resorted to a show of force to crush opposition to its policies, only then did we decide to answer violence with violence.
During my lifetime I have dedicated myself to the struggle of the African people. I have fought against white domination, and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal which I hope to live for and to achieve. But if needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die.
Mandela rightly occupies an untouched place in the South African imagination. He's the national liberator, the savior, its Washington and Lincoln rolled into one.
Said another way, as long as the voters leagalize the making of Africans into property, then we should not go to war over such things.
Whether there is rule by commitee or by one doesn't make it right or wrong, so stop with the nonsense. Neg rep for general stupidity and bearing false witness against right wingers.
I agree. Horn really needs to stop being so stupid. :nono:If I had a dime every time Nick neg repped Horn for general stupidity how wealthy would I be? :think:
Huh? Mandela was a "terrorist". He commited many acts of violence against the South African. Madela was the leader of the Umkonto we Sizwe, the miltary branch of the African National Congress. This group was declared a terrorist organization bit the South African and American governments. Madela planned and led many bomb attacks againt th South African. Here is part of his opening statement he made at his 1964 trial.
We can argue wheter Madenla was a "terrorist" or a "revolutionary" but he chose violence because he realized that non-violent resistance was not going to give black South Americans feedom. He fought and he was willing to die for his beliefs.
It's interesting how Mandela went from "terrorist" to prisoner to "hero" to the President of South Africa over the course of his lifetime. He was captured in 1962 because the CIA tipped off the South African government to his whereabouts. Now if Mendala walks arounf in Americans he's hailed as a hero. Here is a quote from Newsweek
Said another way, as long as the voters leagalize the making of Africans into property, then we should not go to war over such things.
Nick was just arguing my position, not actually taking this position.I can't believe you said that Nick. If the government makes late term abortion legal should we not fight against it with all of our might? bybee
Nick was just arguing my position, not actually taking this position.
At least...I think. :shocked:
This is why pitchforks were invented.When does 'No' have meaning?...
Christians should occupy positions in government (Gen. 42:6), pay taxes (Matt. 22:18–21), pray (1 Tim. 2:1–3), and obey (Rom. 13:1–7) but obey God first (Acts 5:29). Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1995). Nelson's quick reference topical Bible index. Nelson's Quick reference (262). Nashville, Tenn.: Thomas Nelson Publishers....whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
the answer to this question may be contingent upon whether you own a personal stockpile of nuclear weaponry in excess of that owned by the nation in which you reside.The TheologyOnline.com TOPIC OF THE DAY for April 16th, 2010 09:50 AM
toldailytopic: At what point is a revolution justified? (what is the moral criteria)
No, it's why the gun was invented. Preferably high calibre, fully automatic and belt-fed.This is why pitchforks were invented.
I don't know about you, but I live in a country that has fredom of religion. That being said, it should not matter what the religion is of those occupying government. They should obey the wills and needs of the people first.Christians should occupy positions in government (Gen. 42:6), pay taxes (Matt. 22:18–21), pray (1 Tim. 2:1–3), and obey (Rom. 13:1–7) but obey God first (Acts 5:29). Thomas Nelson Publishers. (1995). Nelson's quick reference topical Bible index. Nelson's Quick reference (262). Nashville, Tenn.: Thomas Nelson Publishers.
"Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God." Benjamin Franklin :FrankiE:
That's what I meant, farming. lain: My point is, the Tea Party movement is getting noticed. People have every right to peacefully protest. They'd like to throw the bums out at this point. Unfortunately, there are many bums right behind them."No, it's why the gun was invented. Preferably high caliber, fully automatic and belt-fed. Pitchfork are for farming."
You have that right because Christians founded this country. You are an atheist (against God). Others here identify themselves as agnostic (against knowledge). Fine. You have been given a free country by the blood, sweat and tears of others. I'm sure they would have preferred to die for the godly; but, so be it."I don't know about you, but I live in a country that has freedom of religion."
Christians are fit to lead. They know God's heart. They ensure that his will is sought for our nation. We see what happens when the godless take over (Prov 29:2)."[]I]t should not matter what the religion is of those occupying government."
We should seek God's will (Ex 23:2). When we don't, we head downward--which is where we are now."They should obey the wills and needs of the people first."
Isn't your bum always right behind you?Unfortunately, there are many bums right behind them.