freelight
Eclectic Theosophist
I think you are a dishonest person and I don't care to debate you.
Perhaps its my penchant towards a more brutal 'intellectual honesty' that is too strong for some
I think you are a dishonest person and I don't care to debate you.
Perhaps its my penchant towards a more brutal 'intellectual honesty' that is too strong for some
Maybe you are just wrong.
You are presuming, presupposing my motive or agenda behind my question, while failing to attend to the question. Some believe that the words of Jesus clealy say that the end times and his second coming were to be in that very generation in which he spoke, and it does seem that what he said did not come to pass. If any prophet proclaims something, and gives the time-period of a 'generation' ( lets assume that means at least 100 years or less), and those things do not happen, what conclusion can we arrive at about the authenticity of the prophecy?
It could be that maybe the passages can be 'translated' or 'interpreted' in a way that would resolve the apparent failure of the prophecy, with a reasonable explanation ....granted that a proper exegesis can be done to the passages. Or maybe they could be concluded to be 'unfulfilled prophecies'.
I dont have a vested interest, presuppositional or 'faith-vested' stake in any passage having to be PERFECT, since I do NOT hold to a belief in biblical inerrancy, etc,....so to me its fine and even often probable that many passages have errors, inconsistencies, being redactions/interpolations, fictional narratives in some cases, etc. - although some passages in various books of the Bible do have inspired parts having true religious value, in accord with universal principles, having spiritual meaning, ethical import, relevance, etc. (but not total perfection or a finality of revelation, since I believe in 'progressive revelation'). I've never denied inspiration or usefulness within religious writings (enjoying studies in many different religious traditions and texts), - yet I refuse dogmatic assumptions of some doctrines like 'inerrancy', since I dont see a NEED for a religious book to be 'inerrant' to contain truth. All light that comes thru darkened glasses are 'distorted' to some degree.
At best, understanding better where I'm coming from, you can at least look at the prophecies of Jesus, and see if you can explain or resolve any paradox that might exist, with his failure to return or be SEEN by some within the generation he spoke of. Can the passages be explained? Who cares? I was just presenting the QUESTION, to inspire some research.
Passages concerned - Matthew 16: 27-28, Matthew 24: 25-34, Matthew 26: 63-64, Mark 13:26-30, Luke 21:27-32,
Gotta love these long goodbyes. :rotfl:
Would you like to be banned, too, Michael? It seems to be the flavour of the week.
20 days.
I was just giving you my best estimate
Dear glorydaz,
Yes, they are long goodbyes. I often remember things that I should share with you all, after I have left here. So I come back. What is it to you? Who died and made you God or even one of the moderators. I love Sherman and Knight extremely much and think very highly of them, but you, I can do without. You make yourself unfriendly and undesirable. Some people are kind and loving, and others are mean and argumentative. I would love to be good friends with you, but you would not.
Ciao,
Michael
True prophets don't estimate. They need only speak as God speaks. You are thoroughly false.
Yeah, you're a touchie feelie sort of fellow aren't ya? opcorn:
Well, this is the real world, bub, and you'd best adjust to being scoffed at when you make the claims you do.
Personally, I have NO patience for false prophets. Nor will I pretend to.
Dear glorydaz,
I don't consider myself a touchy feelie guy at all. I guess it depends upon what you mean.
I want you to be assured that I have been scoffed at by the best of them and you don't faze me one iota.
We'll see if you have no patience for true prophets either. That is what I will be proven to be. Mark my words, and see what the awesomely-near future brings.
We can agree to disagree.
No, I'll just ignore you and maybe you'll go away. :wave:
You are not a prophet, so she'll be fine.Can you ignore a prophet and hope he will go away? I guess you can. I wonder how you would have ignored other prophets in the past and how that would have turned out for you?
Can you ignore a prophet and hope he will go away? I guess you can. I wonder how you would have ignored other prophets in the past and how that would have turned out for you?
Can you ignore a prophet and hope he will go away? I guess you can. I wonder how you would have ignored other prophets in the past and how that would have turned out for you?