The Trinity

[God's Truth]

Yes, this is during the dispensation of the grace of God.

When God was dealing with Israel as HIS PEOPLE... there was most definitely Jew AND Greek.

When God catches up the body of Christ... Israel will be in the forefront once again.

Paul taught the same gospel that Jesus came and died for.

When Jesus comes again it will to save those who belong to him from the wrath.

 

[God's Truth]

Was that always the case?
GT seems to think so.

What Jesus taught and died for is for everyone.

Paul calls it Jews first then Gentiles.

Acts 13:46 Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: "We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles.

Acts 13:26
Brothers, children of Abraham, and you Gentiles who fear God, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent.

Acts 18:6
But when they opposed and insulted him, he shook out his garments and told them, "Your blood be on your own heads! I am innocent of it. From now on I will go to the Gentiles."

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.

Romans 2:9
There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile;

Acts 3:26
When God raised up His servant, He sent Him first to you to bless you by turning each of you from your wicked ways

 

[lifeisgood]

Jesus says to obey. It is how we have the Spirit and life. It is how we know him and how we live through him and he through us.

You, gt, have NEVER obeyed Jesus. I have to go and find your response when I told you to OBEY Luke 9:23-24.

 

[lifeisgood]

I am speaking about what the scriptures say.

Yeah, you're speaking about your doctrine.

 

[God's Truth]

You, gt, have NEVER obeyed Jesus. I have to go and find your response when I told you to OBEY Luke 9:23-24.

That was when Jesus needed traveling ministers during the laying of the foundation.

 

[God's Truth]

Yeah, you're speaking about your doctrine.

I prove my beliefs with the scriptures.

 

[lifeisgood]

I prove my beliefs with the scriptures.

You, gt, only accept those verses of the Scripture that you assume agree with your doctrine.

You, gt do not believe the blood of the Lamb is sufficient. You, gt, have to help with your obedience that you do not obey.

 

[lifeisgood]

That was when Jesus needed traveling ministers during the laying of the foundation.

You just proved that you do not follow what you so vociferously proclaim.

You keep on proving that when you say this:

I OBEY ALL OF Jesus' teachings....I FOLLOW ALL OF Jesus teachings, EXACTLY as he says…..Faith is obeying EVERYTHING that Jesus says.... I ,gt, OBEY EVERYTHING Jesus says...."

You, gt, are misleading people.

And that is why I say that you are the most dangerous kind of preacher there is for you mix
God's Truth with your UNtruth. Keep on saying you obey Jesus exactly when your responses prove that what you say is UNtrue.

 

[Right Divider]

I never meant that there was not a difference in the past. I don't too much care about the past so much as the present.

What's going on presently is temporary.

In the future, the nations will serve Israel and their King.... the LORD Jesus Christ.

Rev 21:22-27 (AKJV/PCE)​

(21:22) And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. (21:23) And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb [is] the light thereof. (21:24) And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. (21:25) And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. (21:26) And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it. (21:27) And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither [whatsoever] worketh abomination, or [maketh] a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.

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This is also paralleled in Isaiah.

Isa 60:9-12 (AKJV/PCE)​

(60:9) Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee. (60:10) And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee. (60:11) Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that [men] may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, and [that] their kings [may be] brought. (60:12) For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, [those] nations shall be utterly wasted.

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Isa 60:15-21 (AKJV/PCE)​

(60:15) Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through [thee], I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations. (60:16) Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD [am] thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob. (60:17) For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood brass, and for stones iron: I will also make thy officers peace, and thine exactors righteousness. (60:18) Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise. (60:19) The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. (60:20) Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended. (60:21) Thy people also [shall be] all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified. ​

 

[God's Truth]

You, gt, only accept those verses of the Scripture that you assume agree with your doctrine.

You, gt do not believe the blood of the Lamb is sufficient. You, gt, have to help with your obedience that you do not obey.

Jesus doesn't just put himself in anyone.

 

[lifeisgood]

I do no such thing.

Oh yeah you do. You don't acknowledge it but you do.

Jesus said the pharisees did not obey God.

Nobody said otherwise.

Jesus also said that we must not murder and not even hate or get angry that is how we surpass their righteousness.

Who is saying that we are supposed to murder or hate or get angry? That is something that you read from your doctrine's perspective.

You do negate those books; if not, tell me what you say we have to obey from those books.

I LEARN from those books to run as fast as I can from dangerous preachers that mix God's Truth with their UNtruth.

I told you that Jesus was laying the foundation and expected his disciples to go with him and become traveling ministers.

Yeah, but you OBEY everything that Jesus said EXACTLY, again proving that what you say you OBEY is not true.

Jesus didn't tell us all we had to do what you claim to enter.

However, you vociferously say that you OBEY ALL Jesus said EXACTLY. And when I present Jesus’ word you contradict yourself.

You want me to believe that Jesus' commands are burdensome, and difficult, and hard.

No. You can keep on working on EVERYTHING Jesus' directed to the Jews of his day.

Your claim that we all have to give everything away to enter the kingdom is not true and you use that untruthfulness as an excuse not to do ANYTHING that he said when he walked the earth.

See, this is why you are a sly one and people have to be very, very careful when they read your responses, gt.

YOU SAY that YOU, gt, OBEY everything Jesus said EXACTLY and when you are asked if you have already sold everything you have because that is one of the things Jesus said, you respond that that word of Jesus is not for you, but then you turn around and you say that you OBEY EVERYTHING Jesus said EXACTLY and then you DEMAND that we have to follow your example because you want to help us.

God forbid!

And that is why I say that you are one of the MOST DANGEROUS kind of preachers there are, for you mix God's Truth with your UNtruth, which can only separate the person from the Risen Lord’s revelation to Paul to give to you a non-Jew.

You do not believe that the Blood of the Lamb is sufficient to save and you want to help Him exactly as you want to help us.

 

[God's Truth]

You just proved that you do not follow what you so vociferously proclaim.

You keep on proving that when you say this:

I OBEY ALL OF Jesus' teachings....I FOLLOW ALL OF Jesus teachings, EXACTLY as he says…..Faith is obeying EVERYTHING that Jesus says.... I ,gt, OBEY EVERYTHING Jesus says...."

You, gt, are misleading people.

And that is why I say that you are the most dangerous kind of preacher there is for you mix
God's Truth with your UNtruth. Keep on saying you obey Jesus exactly when your responses prove that what you say is UNtrue.

It is not dangerous to salvation to obey Jesus. It is never dangerous to obey Jesus it is to not obey.

 

[lifeisgood]

Jesus doesn't just put himself in anyone.

Who is saying otherwise? He invites us to accept WHO He is and WHAT He is and let Him save us. He waits for us to accept or reject his invitation.

 

[God's Truth]

Who is saying otherwise? He invites us to accept WHO He is and WHAT He is and let Him save us. He waits for us to accept or reject his invitation.

No that is not how it works. Jesus chooses whom he lives with and it isn't just because you accept him. He has to accept you.

 

[lifeisgood]

It is not dangerous to salvation to obey Jesus. It is never dangerous to obey Jesus it is to not obey.

Which is something you have NEVER done. you have confessed so yourself many a times over when you say when presented with something Jesus said, that that is not for you, but you turn around and you say:

I OBEY ALL OF Jesus' teachings....I FOLLOW ALL OF Jesus teachings, EXACTLY as he says…..Faith is obeying EVERYTHING that Jesus says.... I ,gt, OBEY EVERYTHING Jesus says...."

And then when asked again about it, you say, that saying is not for me, oh, that one either, and that one definitely not for me. However, I OBEY what EVERYTHING Jesus said EXACTLY.

 

[God's Truth]

Which is something you have NEVER done. you have confessed so yourself many a times over when you say when presented with something Jesus said, that that is not for you, but you turn around and you say:

I OBEY ALL OF Jesus' teachings....I FOLLOW ALL OF Jesus teachings, EXACTLY as he says…..Faith is obeying EVERYTHING that Jesus says.... I ,gt, OBEY EVERYTHING Jesus says...."

And then when asked again about it, you say, that saying is not for me, oh, that one either, and that one definitely not for me. However, I OBEY what EVERYTHING Jesus said EXACTLY.

Try to obey Jesus and you will see how great it is.

 

[lifeisgood]

No that is not how it works. Jesus chooses whom he lives with and it isn't just because you accept him. He has to accept you.

Your response tells me that you have no concept of how a person is saved. Oh yeah, I keep on forgetting that you need to help the Lord to save you because you do not believe in the sufficiency of the Blood of the Lamb and you have to help Him exactly as you want to help us.

 

[lifeisgood]

Try to obey Jesus and you will see how great it is.

And that is why I say that you are the most dangerous kind of preacher there is for you mix God's Truth with your UNtruth. Keep on saying you obey Jesus exactly when your responses prove that what you say is UNtrue.

 

[lifeisgood]

Try to obey Jesus and you will see how great it is.

You sound like you have been hypnotized.

 

[Right Divider]

You sound like you have been hypnotized.

Yep.... by vanity and pride.