The Trinity

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Bright Raven

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Matthew 28: 20. Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

(I asked specifically for verses that showed the separation and difference, not the singular nature as shown in the verse you conveniently left out.



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John 14:23 New International Version (NIV)

23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.


John 16:7 New International Version (NIV)

7 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.
 

God's Truth

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Who cares? Go by what the Bible say. The Bible will never steer you wrong.
Are you kidding? I go by the Bible.
Scripture teaches that there is only one God (Deut 6:4; Isa 45:5; Rom 3:30; 1 Cor 8:4; 1 Tim 2:5; Jam 2:19).
Right, but you make three different gods that make One.

Don't say you don't because I know what the trinitarian doctrine says and I know what your beliefs imply.

Trinitarians say the Father is not the Son and not the Holy Spirit, and that Jesus is not the Father and not the Holy Spirit. THAT MAKES THREE DIFFERENT
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making one God.


Scripture teaches that three Persons have eternally existed in the Godhead, namely, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Matt 28:19; John 14:16–26; 15:26; 16:5–15; 1 Cor 12:3–6; 2 Cor 13:14; Gal 4:4–6; Eph 1:3–14; 2:18; 4:4–6; Titus 3:4–6; 1 Pet 1:2; Jude 20–21; Rev 1:4).

Now answer right here and now: Is the Father a Spirit?

Answer with a yes or a no.

Now answer this: Is the Son a Spirit?

Just answer yes or no.

Is the Holy Spirit a Spirit?

Now how many Spirits does that make?
 

lifeisgood

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So answer now for all trinitarians: Is God the Father a Spirit?

The Bible says God is Spirit NOT 'a' Spirit. So, no.

To say that God is spirit is to say that God the Father is invisible. Colossians 1:15 calls God the “invisible God.”

First Timothy 1:17 praises God, saying, “To the King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever.”

Is Jesus Christ a Spirit

The Bible says Jesus Christ is God incarnate, Emmanuel, God with us, NOT 'a' Spirit. So, no.

and, is the Holy Spirit a Spirit?

Obviously the Holy Spirit is Spirit, NOT 'a' Spirit. So, no.

Are they three Spirits or the same Spirit?

Ahhhh, No!

You can't say God the Father is a Person and is not a Spirit. If you do say that, then make it clear now instead of trying to cause confusion. Do you think that the Holy Spirit is acting on behalf of God who is not Himself a Spirit?

Scripture teaches that there is only one God (Deut 6:4; Isa 45:5; Rom 3:30; 1 Cor 8:4; 1 Tim 2:5; Jam 2:19).

Scripture teaches that three Persons have eternally existed in the Godhead, namely, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Matt 28:19; John 14:16–26; 15:26; 16:5–15; 1 Cor 12:3–6; 2 Cor 13:14; Gal 4:4–6; Eph 1:3–14; 2:18; 4:4–6; Titus 3:4–6; 1 Pet 1:2; Jude 20–21; Rev 1:4).
 

God's Truth

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John 14:23 New International Version (NIV)

23 Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.


John 16:7 New International Version (NIV)

7 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.

Those scriptures prove that what pops and I say is truth.

JESUS SAYS that he HIMSELF will live in the saved.

Jesus SAYS that the Father will live in the saved.

So tell me how many Spirits are you given when a person is saved?

We are only given one.

That is because there is only one Spirit and that is the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.

The Father and Son are not Persons without their OWN Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not a proxy Spirit acting on their behalf.

Jesus is a man with his own Spirit and it is the Holy Spirit the Spirit of God the Father.
 

lifeisgood

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Right, but you make three different gods that make One.

You just rejected the Bible.

Don't say you don't because I know what the trinitarian doctrine says and I know what your beliefs imply.

Trinitarians say the Father is not the Son and not the Holy Spirit, and that Jesus is not the Father and not the Holy Spirit. THAT MAKES THREE DIFFERENT
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making one God.

You just rejected the Bible.

Now answer right here and now: Is the Father a Spirit?

No, the Father is NOT 'a' Spirit.

Now answer this: Is the Son a Spirit?

No, the Son is NOT 'a' Spirit.

The Bible says Jesus Christ is God incarnate, Emmanuel, God with us, NOT 'a' Spirit. So, no.

Is the Holy Spirit a Spirit?

No, the Holy Spirit is NOT 'a' Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit.

Now how many Spirits does that make?

In your false doctrine? Three.

In the Bible? One.
 

God's Truth

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You just rejected the Bible.



You just rejected the Bible.



No, the Father is NOT 'a' Spirit.



No, the Son is NOT 'a' Spirit.

The Bible says Jesus Christ is God incarnate, Emmanuel, God with us, NOT 'a' Spirit. So, no.



No, the Holy Spirit is NOT 'a' Spirit.

The Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit.



In your false doctrine? Three.

In the Bible? One.

The Father is A SPIRIT, He is the SPIRIT, and He is SPIRIT.

Stop arguing about words that don't matter, for I even took the 'a' and the 'the' out.

Now tell me plainly is the Father Spirit?
 

lifeisgood

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The Father is A SPIRIT, He is the SPIRIT, and He is SPIRIT.

Not according to the Bible.

Stop arguing about words that don't matter, for I even took the 'a' and the 'the' out.

That would be wonderful for your false doctrine wouldn't it, gt?

There is a MONSTROSITY of a difference between 'the' and 'a'.

Now tell me plainly is the Father Spirit?

I have already given you the explanation and you, gt, rejected the Bible.
 

lifeisgood

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God with us IS the Spirit of God with us!

The Logos came to the earth as a man.

My spirit made my body alive. I am my spirit.

"And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1Thessalonians 5:23)

All humans are flesh and spirit.

Hebrews 12:9, Zechariah 12:1, and Malachi 2:15, James 2:26.

So what's your problem with the Bible.
 

lifeisgood

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Answer the question.

Is the Father a, the, Spirit?

Yes or no.

Already answered more than once and more than once you have rejected the Bible.

To say that God is spirit is to say that God the Father is invisible. Colossians 1:15 calls God the “invisible God.”

First Timothy 1:17 praises God, saying, “To the King of the ages, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever.”
 
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