The Trinity

[glorydaz]

King James Bible
Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

American King James Version
To you it was showed, that you might know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.


Is that more acceptable for you?


Mark 12:32
"Right, Teacher," the scribe replied. "You have stated correctly that God is One and there is no other but Him,

Here is the meaning, since you can't figure it out.

Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else.

 

[glorydaz]

You cannot rightly use the marriage analogy because God says there is no one besides him. Surely a husband and wife are besides each other.

King James Bible
Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

American King James Version
To you it was showed, that you might know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.


Is that more acceptable for you?


Mark 12:32
"Right, Teacher," the scribe replied. "You have stated correctly that God is One and there is no other but Him,


Beside and besides are listed.

"There is "no other but him"......is not the same as being along side of your husband.

Just admit your mistake and don't keep digging the hole deeper.

 

[God's Truth]

Here is the meaning, since you can't figure it out.

Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the Lord, and there is none else.

Isaiah 46:9
Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me.

 

[God's Truth]

"There is "no other but him"......is not the same as being along side of your husband.

Just admit your mistake and don't keep digging the hole deeper.

Steko compared the oneness of God to a husband and wife.

There is someone besides the husband, and someone besides the wife. Use the word 'besides' or 'beside' in any way you like, it doesn't change the truth that it is not an appropriate analogy to say God is One as a husband and wife are one.

 

[steko]

Steko compared the oneness of God to a husband and wife.

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No, I didn't.

 

[glorydaz]

Isaiah 46:9
Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me.

You just keep digging.....

Else or along side are your only choices.

 

[God's Truth]

No, I didn't.

You did.

So, are you implying that there are three gods making up the one God?

There are things that are not the same that can form a unity.


Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one[echad] flesh.


Adam/male and Eve/female were not the same yet they formed a unity.

 

[God's Truth]

You just keep digging.....

Else or along side are your only choices.

Maybe you are the one digging.

Look for yourself what you said:

Surely you jest.

Besides is not the same as beside.

Look it up.

So I gave you scripture that says 'BESIDE'.

King James Bible
Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

American King James Version
To you it was showed, that you might know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.

 

[glorydaz]

Steko compared the oneness of God to a husband and wife.

There is someone besides the husband, and someone besides the wife. Use the word 'besides' or 'beside' in any way you like, it doesn't change the truth that it is not an appropriate analogy to say God is One as a husband and wife are one.

Don't point your finger at someone else hoping to hide your mistake.

Word usage matters. This is a perfect example of why you preach so much error.

Beside can mean apart from, or it can mean next to.

There's a big difference there.

If you get mixed up on something so simple, perhaps you need to slow down and consult a dictionary.

 

[steko]

You did.

No, I was demonstrating that two things that are not the same can form a unity.
Then I asked 'what's his name' a question.

It's just your faulty logic that led you to that false conclusion.

 

[God's Truth]

No, I was demonstrating that two things that are not the same can form a unity.
Then I asked 'what's his name' a question.

It's just your faulty logic that led you to that false conclusion.

That is what I said you did.

You used a marriage analogy to explain how God can be one. It is how trinitarians explain it.

But as I said before, it is not a good analogy for it.

 

[glorydaz]

No, I was demonstrating that two things that are not the same can form a unity.
Then I asked 'what's his name' a question.

It's just your faulty logic that led you to that false conclusion.

She wouldn't admit her house was on fire if the embers were falling all around her.

A sad case that one.

 

[steko]

She wouldn't admit her house was on fire if the embers were falling all around her.

A sad case that one.

Sad, indeed!

Such obstinate pride.

 

[God's Truth]

She wouldn't admit her house was on fire if the embers were falling all around her.

A sad case that one.

Maybe you are like that, since you said I went by the name Mariah. You are wrong because I used Moriah.

You also were wrong about the word 'beside', and I proved it to you by getting you scripture that said 'beside'.

 

[popsthebuilder]

So, are you implying that there are three gods making up the one God?

There are things that are not the same that can form a unity.


Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one[echad] flesh.


Adam/male and Eve/female were not the same yet they formed a unity.

Being made as one flesh

 

[popsthebuilder]

Don't point your finger at someone else hoping to hide your mistake.

Word usage matters. This is a perfect example of why you preach so much error.

Beside can mean apart from, or it can mean next to.

There's a big difference there.

If you get mixed up on something so simple, perhaps you need to slow down and consult a dictionary.

Pretty sure the confusion came about after you claimed besides and beside are used differently.

 

[popsthebuilder]

No, I was demonstrating that two things that are not the same can form a unity.
Then I asked 'what's his name' a question.

It's just your faulty logic that led you to that false conclusion.

And a unit means one whole.

 

[popsthebuilder]

You just agreed with him and have the gall to call it nonsense. :rotfl:

Nope.

He said the thief who confessed Christ had no works; on the contrary; I claimed that the words of their mouth were indeed works.

See the difference.

No works/ works.

Faith is effectual.

 

[lifeisgood]

It would behoove us all to study for ourselves; without prefoncieved bias or input from outside sources, the core sacred text of any said faith before being so accusatory.

The Quran itself says that Jesus is the Messiah.

3:45. (Recall the time) when the angels said, ‘O Mary! Allâh gives you good tidings through a (prophetic) word from Him (about the birth of a son) whose name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, (he shall be) worthy of regard in this world and in the Hereafter and one of the nearest ones (to Him),

5:72. Indeed, they have disbelieved who say, ‘Allâh - He is the Messiah, son of Mary,’ whereas the Messiah (himself) said, ‘O Children of Israel! Worship Allâh Who is my Lord and your Lord.’ Surely whoso associates partners with Allâh, him has Allâh forbidden Paradise, and his resort will be the Fire and these transgressors shall have no helpers.

9:31. They have taken their learned men and their monks for lords apart from Allâh, and (similarly they have taken) the Messiah, son of Mary, whilst they were enjoined to worship none but One God. There is no other, cannot be and will never be One worthy of worship but He. Too glorified is He for what they associate (with Him).

So, what the Quran says that Jesus is the Messiah if they say that they do not believe Jesus to be the Son of God making God a liar?

I don’t know what your Bible says, but my Bible says:
Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son. (I John 5:10).


Before you defend Islam, learn a little bit about it. The ones who suffer the most from Islam, are the Muslims.

Quran Says Allah Has No Son: Those who believe that Allah has a son must be admonished since this is a monstrous blasphemy and falsehood (18:4-6). Allah has never begotten a son and there are no deities beside him (23:91). Jews say that Ezra is the son of Allah while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of Allah. May Allah destroy them. They are both perverted. They worship rabbis, monks and the Messiah, the son of Mary, as Lords besides Allah in opposition to the monotheistic command given them (9:30, 31).

On the façade of the Dome of the Rock, which is an antichrist structure with the naturally embossed satanic face on its marble inscribed with "Far be it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son", what I John defines as Antichrist.

And let us not forget when a Muslim shouts 'Allahu Akbar' he is saying 'Allah is greater' and no, Allah and God are not the same.

Defined as Unbelievers: Unbelievers are the ones who say that Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary (5:17).

You know what I love? That when Mohammed has some doubt he was directed to talk to the ones reading the Bible. Love it!

Doubters Directed to Christians and Jews: "If you (Mohammed) doubt the reliability of the Qur'an, you should ask those who are reading the Bible, which was revealed prior to your life (10:94).

Do you dare condemn all Christianity due to the actions of the ancient rcc? I would think not. The same standard should be exuded towards all.... Again works show the desire and desired home of the heart.

When have I condemned all Christianity due to the actions of the ancient rcc?

I do not consider the organization of the ROMAN Catholic Church to be Christianity.

 

[lifeisgood]

You're unreasonable. :idunno:

Thank you.