The Religion Wrecking Gospel of Jesus Christ

beloved57

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The scriptures plainly teache that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2 also 1 John 4:14.

You are not able to accept and believe God's word.

The issue isn't what God's word says, but what you say, teaching that sinners Christ died for are going to perish in their sins anyways! That is unbelief!
 

Robert Pate

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Faith is demonstrated by what a person says and does. According to you it's up to Christ to provide the faith to those preselected for salvation because people have no control over their salvation. No requirements, remember? Christ does it all for us, we just sit back and watch. Really we don't even have to do that. Everything is done for us.

Paul said to the Colossians, "You are complete in him" (Christ) Colossians 2:10.

The work of salvation is finished. There is nothing that you can do to make yourself pleasing to God.

The reason for that is because you are a sinner. God does not accept the works or the obedience of sinners.
 

Robert Pate

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The issue isn't what God's word says, but what you say, teaching that sinners Christ died for are going to perish in their sins anyways! That is unbelief!

You will perish in your sins for one reason.

You have rejected God's great free offer of salvation that has been provided for you by his Son Jesus Christ.
 

beloved57

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You will perish in your sins for one reason.

You have rejected God's great free offer of salvation that has been provided for you by his Son Jesus Christ.

False statements. You teach that sinners Christ died for are going to perish in their sins anyways! That is unbelief!
 

jamie

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Paul said to the Colossians, "You are complete in him" (Christ) Colossians 2:10.

The work of salvation is finished. There is nothing that you can do to make yourself pleasing to God.

That's exactly what B57 has been saying for years.

You and he are on the same page after all.

There's is nothing we can do, it's all been predetermined, right?

We just need to sit back, relax, sip our bourbon and coke and enjoy the ride.

Jesus died for everyone but if our name isn't drawn, too bad. There was nothing we could do anyway.

As you said, salvation was finished before we were born. And we didn't have to do a thing.
 

Robert Pate

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That's exactly what B57 has been saying for years.

You and he are on the same page after all.

There's is nothing we can do, it's all been predetermined, right?

We just need to sit back, relax, sip our bourbon and coke and enjoy the ride.

Jesus died for everyone but if our name isn't drawn, too bad. There was nothing we could do anyway.

As you said, salvation was finished before we were born. And we didn't have to do a thing.

HOGWASH!

You are not reading what I post.

The work of salvation is finished. But nothing is your until it is received by faith. You must believe that Jesus has atoned for your sins and the sins of the world, 1 John 2:2.
 

jamie

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The work of salvation is finished. But nothing is your until it is received by faith. You must believe that Jesus has atoned for your sins and the sins of the world, 1 John 2:2.

You must do this or do that makes it sound like a requirement and you've said for years there are no requirements.

Besides, you claim it's finished. So therefore it doesn't matter what we say or do it has all been determined beforehand.

We might just as well go along with the show. You said, "There is nothing that you can do to make yourself pleasing to God."

I'm sure Charles Manson would probably agree with you. Why even try, what would be the point?

Yeah, man, you've got yourself a theory ... a real humdinger.
 

Robert Pate

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You reject the Gospel, you dont even believe sinners He died for are saved from their sins by it !

You are as blind as a bat.

God has ALREADY reconciled you unto himself by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

But you don't believe it. Instead you want to be predestinated.
 

Robert Pate

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There's no Gospel without Christ Saving them He died for!

Of course, this is why Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

So that now, "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

This is known as being saved by grace. Isn't it wonderful?
 

beloved57

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Of course, this is why Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2.

So that now, "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

This is known as being saved by grace. Isn't it wonderful?

But you dont believe Christs death saved them He died for, thats unbelief !
 

Robert Pate

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But you dont believe Christs death saved them He died for, thats unbelief !


Jesus is the savior of the whole world.

"For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world, John 12:47

But you don't believe him and think that he is a liar. Salvation has been provided for everyone, but you refuse to accept it.
 

jamie

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So that now, "Whosoever that shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

I thought you said there is nothing a person can do about their salvation, that it was already finished.

So what is all this name calling? And what name do we use?
 

Robert Pate

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I thought you said there is nothing a person can do about their salvation, that it was already finished.

So what is all this name calling? And what name do we use?


The Gospel calls for a response. No response is a response.

You should respond with a heart full of love and thanksgiving for what Christ has done to save you.
 

beloved57

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Jesus is the savior of the whole world.

"For I came not to judge the world, but to save the world, John 12:47

But you don't believe him and think that he is a liar. Salvation has been provided for everyone, but you refuse to accept it.

But you believe that His death didnt save anyone!So how is that being a Saviour?

Your saviour is freewill remember ?
 
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