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Explain your rep threads within your soots forum. You're the one who posted your CP showing the Rep Rampage and Rep Thread IV threads.
The New Rep System Is A Joke
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Explain your rep threads within your soots forum. You're the one who posted your CP showing the Rep Rampage and Rep Thread IV threads.
It's a fair question. I answered it early on, but it's easy to miss in all the posting going around and I'm happy to relate it.
Before that answer though I think it's important to recognize something you bring up in the question itself, a recognition of the time when I and some soots and any number of people from different backgrounds and affiliations had really large rep. A thing that is no longer true or even, as it sits, possible.
Now, back to your question. What I said in my earlier remark is that it's been a while since I'd even thought about the number. Mostly that's because I'd topped out a very long time ago. Mine wasn't moving. You didn't know that because I never made any sort of deal about it, didn't complain my rep wasn't being represented fairly and proportionately, etc.
I just used it as a message system, sharing a joke, praise, a raised eyebrow or the like without having to tie up a thread to do it or resort to profile page memos. And I liked it that way.
Then the reset happened (and a complaint that followed on it by I forget who) and it made me think about the thing for the first time since I couldn't tell you when.
I think the opt in or out notion is a solution for anyone involved, however they feel about it.
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When Knight did the reset, I noticed that he had 500 points even though everyone else was still at 0. This is a fact. I don't know the reason for this fact. Ultimately, I don't really care all that much, though I was irked when I initially saw it.
My initial thoughts are: "Oh, well, he must not be top dog in rep power or something. Must be kind of depressing to be the site owner and have less reputation than someone else. He's probably just wanting to make adjustments for himself and for his buddies."
But then it occurred to me: "Y'know...who cares? I have better things to be spending my time on."
And for those of you who have been arguing back and forth about this throughout this thread, I really have to ask:
Don't you have better things to do? Your reputation score is utterly insignificant. Lighthouse, e.g., can have a billion rep power, and everyone else can have 0. That doesn't really change anything about Lighthouse or his posting quality, or even his actual reputation (i.e., how he is actually viewed by other posters and site viewers).
This entire thread is utterly juvenile. I rarely say this, but I think it needs to be said here: grow up. I'm assuming we're all adults, no?
The rep system, insofar as it is a numerical score, is basically the online equivalent of handing out gold star stickers.
That is what you are whining about. "Boo hoo! He has too many gold star stickers, and I don't have enough! It's not fair!" Grown up adults. 20, 30, 40 plus years old. And that's what you are boo-hooing about. You should feel very silly about this.
If your reputation number actually means anything to you, you seriously need to re-evaluate your lives.
And I say this to both sets of you:
1. The people who are complaining about it.
2. The people who are going on "reputation rampages."
You have time for that? Really?
When Knight did the reset, I noticed that he had 500 points even though everyone else was still at 0. This is a fact. I don't know the reason for this fact. Ultimately, I don't really care all that much, though I was irked when I initially saw it.
My initial thoughts are: "Oh, well, he must not be top dog in rep power or something. Must be kind of depressing to be the site owner and have less reputation than someone else. He's probably just wanting to make adjustments for himself and for his buddies."
But then it occurred to me: "Y'know...who cares? I have better things to be spending my time on."
And for those of you who have been arguing back and forth about this throughout this thread, I really have to ask:
Don't you have better things to do? Your reputation score is utterly insignificant. Lighthouse, e.g., can have a billion rep power, and everyone else can have 0. That doesn't really change anything about Lighthouse or his posting quality, or even his actual reputation (i.e., how he is actually viewed by other posters and site viewers).
This entire thread is utterly juvenile. I rarely say this, but I think it needs to be said here: grow up. I'm assuming we're all adults, no?
The rep system, insofar as it is a numerical score, is basically the online equivalent of handing out gold star stickers.
That is what you are whining about. "Boo hoo! He has too many gold star stickers, and I don't have enough! It's not fair!" Grown up adults. 20, 30, 40 plus years old. And that's what you are boo-hooing about. You should feel very silly about this.
If your reputation number actually means anything to you, you seriously need to re-evaluate your lives.
And I say this to both sets of you:
1. The people who are complaining about it.
2. The people who are going on "reputation rampages."
You have time for that? Really?
Who else doesn't want me to pos rep them?
I'll start a list and try my best to remember not to rep you. If I happen to slip up and rep something of yours that I like, please forgive me and give a reminder to check my list again.
Thanks.
So far, my list includes:
Anna
I'll start a list and try my best to remember not to rep you. If I happen to slip up and rep something of yours that I like, please forgive me and give a reminder to check my list again.
Thanks.
So far, my list includes:
Anna
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To be clear, I want everyone to understand what Tambora has basically said:
"Who else doesn't want me to put gold star stickers on their shirts? I'll start a list and try my best not to stick them on your shirts when you display behaviors that I like.
So far, Anna doesn't want my gold star stickers."
You realize how stupid this is, yes?
I wrote as much a while back. You don't read a post then consider it by the light of that number, if you're sane. The post will ultimately speak for itself.
There I think you make a mistake which surprises me given your background. There is a thing put in play which purports to represent a thing it in fact doesn't. And you're required to participate in that at present. It's okay for people to be unhappy about that, even if it's only a little lie they're being forced to tell and/or accept.
Because the larger decisions we make begin with the small ones, even the relatively trivial ones. I don't think you'd suggest that my requiring you to sin even a little is something you'd be juvenile to object to.
I think my solution would allow people to reconcile that to their own satisfaction.
As to the rest, you should consider my response to Tam's question a few posts ago. :e4e:
Yes. I basically agree with this.
That's just it. It really doesn't represent anything. If you read the thread that Knight initially put up when he implemented the rep system, he basically said as much. People use rep for different things.
Sin. You're bringing sin into what is, effectively, a debate about gold star stickers? Really?
That's really not that much different from the gold star stickers analogy. Everyone liked how I acted, so they all gave me a gold star sticker. Yay. I feel good about myself.
The representation doesn't reflect what people generally think about you. Some people probably think that your posting quality is good, but just can't be bothered to follow you around and click on the rep button.
Some people probably think you are great and follow you around and give you lots of rep...but have really low rep scores.
Other people probably really dislike you, have a lot of rep, and just follow you around giving you negative rep.
The rep system is practically meaningless if our goal is to know what the community, broadly speaking, thinks about any given poster.
You realize that you are sidestepping the issue. You don't want these soot members you speak of to be repping you. The issue of how you could possibly know if all the reps you get are from a non-soot group member is puzzling, unless you have an official list showing who is a current member of said group.
If so, then you have seen something I have never seen.
So how are you going to determine if all the reps you get are "fair"?
Do you have some official list of these members you speak of? I don't.
:idunno:
Those who consistently break rules should have lower reputation than those who don't.That's just silly. If I hang out at a social club, and 10 people don't like me, whereas 90 people think I am great, then I have a really good reputation. Even if the club owners don't like me, but literally everyone else does, my reputation is amazing.
Also, if it worked as I suggested then newbies would know what people believed the primary beliefs of the site runners, and who did not. Generally speaking.
It works exactly as VBulletin set it up to work. Knight made some customizations that he was allowed to make, but nothing like what you whiners are imagining, since the program doesn't allow for such things. I know this because I asked for certain changes that cannot be made.
On this sit we are the in crowd. Get over it.
What about them? I told you, we rep each other.
No he's not. Nobody is.
What is a "soot"? :idunno:
soot
so͝ot/
noun
noun: soot
1.
a black powdery or flaky substance consisting largely of amorphous carbon, produced by the incomplete burning of organic matter.
verb
verb: soot; 3rd person present: soots; past tense: sooted; past participle: sooted; gerund or present participle: sooting
1.
cover or clog (something) with soot.
annabenedetti
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You are, Tam. You've not quoted and answered a number of things, including this:
First, your page shows you're a member of Soots. But you already know that.
Plus it's not that hard to know, I mean really. Just look around at the rep scores. :chuckle:
Second, yes. I do think there is a member list.
I wonder how many people realize that everyone gets 60 reps a day to pass out - and some people actually use them all.
PureX
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… To pump up your count so you look like the site 'big shots' and can 'punish' and 'reward' people using the rep system. Shallow, tawdry, pathetic, … these are the words that come to mind. But hey, if that's how you roll …
1. That's not what you said earlier.
2. Even so, "should" doesn't equal "does." I could break the rules of the social club left and right (thus the reason, e.g., why the club owners don't like me), but it still be the case that everyone there loves me. Once more, my reputation would still be amazing.
In point of fact, if you consider actual reputation (i.e., what the people on the board actually think), this is just true. There's probably no correlation between "reputation" and actual reputation.
That's one way of putting it.
Yep, that's what I'm asking --- Who else does not want a gold star (rep) from me?
I realize how stupid you are.
There is nothing stupid about asking if there are other folks besides Anna that request that I not give them any of my reps (gold stars). It is a request that I will try to oblige.
And there is not a darn thing wrong or stupid about it.
You misunderstand me. What's stupid is that the question even arises. We're talking about little gold star stickers. Who cares? It's utterly insignificant. :nono:
I have 60 reps a day i can hand out (and so does everyone else), if i want to hand up to 10 of them to one person each day if i want for whatever reason i want, whats it to anyone?
They are mine to hand out as i see fit.
They are mine to hand out as i see fit.
annabenedetti
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Maybe you can explain your Rep Thread IV (that was years ago, not sure what number it might be now) and Rep Rampage threads, since Lighthouse can't.
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