The Joys of Catholicism

Derf

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The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat? ...

These people struggled with a metaphor. Then after Jesus answered them:

Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? ...

From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.


Peter and the rest of them didn't understand the bread of life discourse anymore than the people who walked away that day. They didn't stick around because it made sense to them. They stuck around because they believed in Him.

And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

I mean, it's almost like, because Peter here says something so similar to his confession in Matthew 16:16, that maybe it's happening around that same time? but I don't think that's true. This John 6 account is I think the first or second Passover of Christ's Earthly ministry? and I don't think Matthew 16:16 took place during a Passover. But the confession there in John 6:69 above by Peter is really similar to his confession in Matthew 16:16, which is interesting.
Ok. It is interesting. Certainly we all struggle at times with metaphors. What else is your point?
 

Idolater

"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Which is an admission that Christianity does not hinge on Rome's asinine, un-Biblical, false proposition, that each one of millions of wafers of bread around the world stops being the wafer of bread that it is, and starts being Jesus Christ instead of being the wafer of bread that it is. Keith Green wrote against that Romish falsehood:

The thing I like about podcasts are when the podcaster both writes and acts. Once the podcaster is doing someone else's lines, it's like network news, which is still OK, it's just a different animal. (It's ... more corporate? Not in a terrible way, it doesn't have to be terrible anyway.) It's definitively different with podcasters, you're dealing with the writer and the actor (same person), not just the actor. You can tell.

The thing is the podcaster is an artist working on a masterpiece, while the actor is working on the most popular projects, attracting the eyes of the masses, rather than only the eyes of those who share his passion for whatever niche interest the podcaster has, like mixed martial arts for example. Not everybody's into mixed martial arts, but some podcasters are, and you'll never have network news spending a ton of time on mixed martial arts, because people start changing the channel who aren't mixed martial arts enthusiasts.

But the artist and creator, of the podcast, cares about mixed martial arts. And it's part of his fine art, in creating his personal masterpiece, to discuss mixed martial arts. If you don't like mixed martial arts, you're probably not into Joe Rogan. Or if you're not into swearing.

You give up something with podcasts compared to network news. They're more insular, unless like Rogan, you can bring the World to your studio. Literally World leaders.

Anyway Elvis never wrote a single song. He was all actor, and no creator. Even though songs were written for him, he was no different than Keith Green covering the "Easter Song". That wasn't his song, but he did cover it like a champ, like how Elvis always played music like a champ too, these guys were both really talented, and both died too young.
 

Idolater

"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
Ok. It is interesting. Certainly we all struggle at times with metaphors. What else is your point?

Jesus spends the bread of life discourse saying how people need to eat His flesh and drink His blood.

At the Last Supper He says, "This is My body" and "This is My blood".
 

Idolater

"Matthew 16:18-19" Dispensationalist (Catholic) χρ
And it is metaphor that we are struggling with?

Right. So He's metaphorically talking about the metaphor of the Eucharist in the bread of life discourse in John 6.

There were people in John 6 who were struggling with metaphor too, and they all left.

Peter then says that he too plus all the Disciples were struggling with metaphor as well, and they too would leave, except they didn't have anywhere else to go.

This may have been when the Father in Heaven had revealed to the Son, that He had chosen Peter to lead His Apostles, at this moment.

You can almost imagine Christ thinking in this moment, when the Father in Heaven revealed He has chosen Peter, "Oh great."
 
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