The impact of Donald Trump Jr's emails

Greg Jennings

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He has not lied.

Please tell me that's a joke. You surely have heard his previous statements in which he denied meeting with this lawyer, and also denied that info beneficial to Trump's campaign was discussed.

Don Jr. absolutely 100% lied. If you can't find it in your heart to accept that truth then you're only duping yourself. Even hardcore conservative Fox News hosts like Jesse Watters, who has been head over heels in love with Trump from the beginning, is admittedly disturbed by Jr's dishonesty.

It's not treason. But it's a really bad look, particularly when Daddy Trump was already suspected of having ties to the Russians
 

patrick jane

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Please tell me that's a joke. You surely have heard his previous statements in which he denied meeting with this lawyer, and also denied that info beneficial to Trump's campaign was discussed.

Don Jr. absolutely 100% lied. If you can't find it in your heart to accept that truth then you're only duping yourself. Even hardcore conservative Fox News hosts like Jesse Watters, who has been head over heels in love with Trump from the beginning, is admittedly disturbed by Jr's dishonesty.

It's not treason. But it's a really bad look, particularly when Daddy Trump was already suspected of having ties to the Russians
Little white lies, Junior is just a kid :chuckle:
 

Nick M

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Finally, some real dirt? :think:

You mean he didn't delete 30,000 emails?

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Jonahdog

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Little white lies, Junior is just a kid :chuckle:

No, he is 39 year old idiot. With no concern for America. If he had any concern he would have gone right to the FBI when the Russian offer was made.
The only excuse he possibly has is that he was unaware of the legal issues. If that is the case, then Paul Manafort should have jumped in and told him what to do.
None of these people have any concern for anything other than their own pocketbooks.
 

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This one is likely to be a bigger deal than Donald Jr., who everyone seems to characterize as an idiot:

While President Donald Trump's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., finds himself at the center of a political firestorm stemming from his controversial meeting with a Russian lawyer last summer, questions are also beginning to swirl around the involvement of another Trump family member who was present for the rendezvous: Jared Kushner.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/12/politics/kushner-trump-jr-russia-email-chain/index.html
 

ok doser

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If he had any concern he would have gone right to the FBI when the Russian offer was made.

Why would he have had any expectation that bammy's FBI director would have been interested in examining the evidence of hillary's criminal behavior?
 

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https://www.vox.com/world/2017/7/14/15972770/rinat-akhmetshin-explained


Rinat Akhmetshin, the potential Russian spy who met Donald Trump Jr., explained

Rinat Akhmetshin is a Russian-American lobbyist who, by his own admission, worked as a military counterintelligence officer for the Soviet Union before its fall.
He also attended Donald Trump Jr.’s June 2016 meeting with Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya, before which Trump was promised dirt on Hillary Clinton that came from the Russian government. The Trump team had, until NBC News broke the story on Friday, never mentioned that there were any other Russian nationals at the meeting.
As a result, Akhmetshin is now the most speculated-about man in American politics. Veselnitskaya herself was a lawyer who had previously represented the Kremlin government but was not literally a Russian state employee. If an actual Russian spy was at the meeting, that would bring the Russian government’s ties to the Trump campaign one gigantic step closer.
So is Akhmetshin a Russian spy? He denies the charge, of course — but that’s what any spy would do (Akhmetshin did not respond to an emailed request for comment). So all we have to go on is what’s publicly available: reporting and documents on his roughly 20-year lobbying career in Washington.
That record is not conclusive either way. But it does suggest that there is, at least, a plausible case that Akhmetshin was involved in Russia’s election interference campaign. An April letter penned by Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Republican chair of the Judiciary Committee, accuses him of having “ties to Russian intelligence.” Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a Russia-friendly California Republican, told CNN that Akhmetshin had "international connections to different groups in Russia” and that "I would certainly not rule [him being a spy] out."
And court documents uncovered by the Daily Beast allege that Akhmetshin masterminded the hack and dissemination of private documents belonging to a mining company in 2013

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The direct evidence of Akhmetshin’s involvement with the Kremlin is thin — but his explanation for the Trump meeting is questionable
As dubious as Akhmetshin’s past is, there’s no direct evidence showing that he’s in the Kremlin’s employ. There wouldn’t be, of course: It’s not like the Kremlin posts a list on the internet with all the names of its operatives in Washington.
But it’s his most recent lobbying campaign, a furious effort to undermine a US sanctions law against Russia called the Magnitsky Act, that is raising questions about his current ties to the Kremlin.

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“In this case, the meeting is allegedly to discuss the Magnitsky Act,” Glenn Carle, a former CIA covert operative, told my colleague Sean Illing. “What do you do here if you're the Russians? You send someone who is a private lawyer into what might theoretically be a legitimate, aboveboard meeting, and you inject an intelligence officer or intelligence objectives into that meeting. That appears to be what happened in this case.”
Akhmetshin’s lobbying work against the Magnitsky Act is in itself fairly suggestive — after all, who else would want it lifted but the Russian government? It’s the work that led both Sen. Grassley and Rep. Rohrabacher to wonder about Akhmetshin’s connection to the Russian government. Grassley, in his April 2017 letter, said the Senate Judiciary Committee was investigating claims that Akhmetshin was “acting as an unregistered agent for Russian interests.”
This theory also makes sense out of the fact Trump Jr.’s meeting with Veselnitskaya was billed as an opportunity to receive potentially damaging information about Hillary Clinton from a Russian government source. And there’s a part of Akhmetshin’s own story, as reported by the AP, that makes this seem more plausible:
During the meeting, Akhmetshin said Veselnitskaya brought with her a plastic folder with printed-out documents that detailed what she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the Democratic National Committee. Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to the Trump associates and suggested that making the information public could help the Trump campaign, he said.
Why would an anti-sanctions lobbyist have information on DNC finances? Where did she get them if not the Russian government — more specifically, from emails stolen by Russian government hackers from the DNC servers?
We don’t, right now, have enough information to determine which of the two scenarios is closer to accurate. We only have the word of the participants of the meeting to go on so far, and none of them have any incentive to tell the truth if it’s the worst-case scenario. Moreover, Trump Jr. has a repeated habit of lying and omitting the truth about this meeting — which is why we’re only just now finding out about Akhmetshin’s participation in the first place.
But what we do know about Akhmetshin suggests that, at a minimum, we cannot rule out him working as a direct agent of the Russian government. Only more investigation — from reporters, Congress, and the FBI — will be able to get to the bottom of this, one way or another.


 

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Some, on Wall St, are sick of Donald Trump; they think Mike Pence would be better suited towards getting along, and co-operating. Trump is too much on playing showman, the media hates him and he keeps bringing it on.

While Pence is not well-liked from those opposing Trump, his presidency would *still* be a welcome relief ... just because he actually seems sane.
 
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Ktoyou

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While Pence is not well-liked from those opposing Trump, his presidency would *still* be a welcome relief ... just because he actually seems sane.

Well, if one is a Democrat , then the good news is Pence would lose the next election; them and I bet Congress will change in the duration. It takes people to win elections, not the few persons who had most to gain from Trump.

We needed to have the corporate tax lowered, or business will go elsewhere today. It is not like when Westinghouse, Ford and IBM were the major players anymore. Today's businesses are more portable.

Anyway, I'll be very old by the next election and may not any longer know what a president is? :idunno:
 

Ktoyou

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Why are you bring up a "giant nothing burger"? The information and story is about Hillary is all her criminal action. And you have no problem with it.

You think? I guess I can imagine that, Hillary Clinton is a plain hamburger
 
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