OK, so what happens? Are there any videos of people trying to go there and having the government stop them?
The earth is flat and we never went to the moon
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The Berean
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His key points that no Moon hoaxer has ever refuted are:
1) No high speed video cameras existed in 1969.
2) Creating a high speed film fake Moon landing was pretty much impossible to do in 1969.
Film technology was more than up to the task of faking a moon landing. 2001: A Space Odyssey came out in 1968 is proof of that.
The filming was done on a studio set with the same film technique used by Kubrick for space Odyssey.
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The Berean
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You are simply 100% wrong on this Dave.
Some guys wanted to protest Trump in a creative way. They launched a high altitude balloon with a protest sign. And you see the curvature of the Earth clearly in the background. No NASA and no fish-eye lens.
When you view the video you can see the horizon bend back and forth which is what a fish eye will do.
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The Berean
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That'a not true, Dave. I don't see the horizon bend back and forth. Does anyone else see what Dave is describing?
Dave, again, I make the argument that if the curvature is ONLY due to the type of lens used, then if the horizon is truly flat, then the horizon should bend up and down equal amounts throughout the entire video.
I can almost guarantee you though ("almost" because I haven't calculated it myself) that the horizon bends downward more often, AND more drastically, than it bends upwards.
Because the camera is "fixed" in relation to the paper/rigging. See my above comment for a better argument.
In other words, I get what you're saying, but it's not a very strong argument.
Yes, you can see the horizon line moving and the curvature would not be that much anyway from that altitude.
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Flat Earth: New GoPro rocket video
You can see the effect of the GoPro camera in this video.
Watch all of it, watch it carefully and more than once.
The horizon bends and notice how different the earth looks from high altitude compared to the video from the ISS. The earth will be motionless and the horizon is actually flat even though the fish eye lens distorts it.
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You can see the effect of the GoPro camera in this video.
Watch all of it, watch it carefully and more than once.
The horizon bends and notice how different the earth looks from high altitude compared to the video from the ISS. The earth will be motionless and the horizon is actually flat even though the fish eye lens distorts it.
--Dave
The Berean
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I see no such thing as you describe.
I have made it clear why I think it's important. It does not have to be important to you, why judge others?
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because I think it is silly Dave.
I never disliked you, as you well know. It is not personal, it is too much a silly position to hold seriously. Now, if you are using it as an intellectual argument, or exercise, by all means, have at it. I will not interfere. :nono:
I never disliked you, as you well know. It is not personal, it is too much a silly position to hold seriously. Now, if you are using it as an intellectual argument, or exercise, by all means, have at it. I will not interfere. :nono:
I have absolutely no doubt about your integrity.
Derf
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I'll let others decide who's making an idiot of himself.
Distrust of NASA is certainly on the table. They use a lot of tax dollars, and not all of it comes back to us in useful product. But don't throw the baby out with the bath water. NASA didn't invent the spherical earth, as your own flat earther sites will tell you. Ancient Greeks recognized it as fact. And other countries have their own space and Antarctica exploration programs.
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