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Everyone loves a VAGUE GENERALIZATION. Does a world of good.
ECT The core of the argument between Christians and MAD.
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Of course, MOVE VAGUE GENERALIZATION.
You problem is that you disagree with the Bible and therefore God as well.
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Why won't you answer simple questions?
Like why aren't YOU HEALING EVERYONE like they did?
Act 5:15-16 KJV Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them. (16) There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed every one.
You have said on MANY, MANY occasions that YOU have received the SAME SPIRIT that THEY DID.I guess that you're just all talk and no action, oh faithless one.
Nang
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Please do me the favor of not chopping, dissecting, and separating the points of my posts, in order to make lame attempts at finding fault.
Such are disingenous tactics used by the unsaved hoi polloi and generally uninformed, when making like they are participating in theological discussions.
Argue my posts, if you must, but do so within the context of the whole apologetic, I produce, with Holy Scripture, please.
Otherwise, I will not be able to respect your baseless and unfounded "opinions."
Arsenios
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Here is the relevant quote:
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them,
"Repent, and be baptized every one of you
in the name of Jesus Christ
for the remission of sins,
and
ye shall receive the Gift
of the Holy Spirit.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you,
and
to your children,
and
to all that are afar off,
as many as the Lord our God shall call to Himself.
So the sequence is clearly:
First: Repentance
Second: Baptism into Christ
Third: Reception of the Gift of the Holy Spirit
And to WHOM is this promise given?
First: to the Jews whom he is addressing...
Second: to their children...
Third: To ALL whom the Lord our God should CALL to Himself... [Even those who are far away]
The "Gift" of the Holy Spirit, which in the early days was authenticated by God with the Gift of speaking in foreign languages, was given first in the inaugural blessing at Pentecost, and then to all those being baptized, and then to the Gentiles so that Peter would know that they were TO BE BAPTIZED... Which started the shift to the Gift being given to the Gentiles as well as the Jews, no difference...
Arsenios
Nang
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Not necessarily, given (as I understand it) you can read synergistic salvation a bit more broadly than I intend. I mean those who believe they must preserve in the doing of good to be saved.
Nang
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Well, there is quite a difference, in that synergistic salvation requires human actions and works, added to faith, in order to achieve and maintain salvation.
But a contingent salvation is grace that produces fruits of the indwelling Holy Spirit, which is a corresponding and evident result of being saved, not a means to get saved nor to preserve one's position in Christ.
Arsenios
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But Nick, I mean, why don't you just say straight away
How it is that you REALLY FEEL??
Why beat around the bush??
Why just these paltry hints and allegations??
Arsenios
fwiw - Methinks you have been giving sermons to the Choir for far too many years...
How does this message do on the street?
Nang
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LOL!
I love you, dear brother . . . mostly because you make me laugh and feel more light-hearted about all that goes down around here.
I see you can see right through the "debate". They are like what Rush calls the "drive bys".
Arsenios
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I think you are asking for something in vain...
They LOVE neg reps...
Meat and potatoes...
Fruit and tomatoes...
It is their little deposit of stinky for their enemies...
It is just the world, Nang...
A worldly argument, like name-calling and insult...
Befitting a worldly faith...
Arsenios
The problem there being that it can break down between people who agree on OSAS in that some consider the mere acceptance of grace itself as a work absent an overwhelming compulsion, while others do not.
Not as I was using it. I literally meant "those who believe they must preserve in the doing of good to be saved." I wasn't using a theological term of art, only my own means of advancing a particular thought. Those who don't believe that salvation is accomplished until the end.
To me we respond to love in love and from grace. I think that's very much like what you're saying above.
Nang
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Nick and GM are guilty of "drive by" neg reps against persons, just for what others' believe, but nothing to do with particular posts.
They neg rep just to destroy reputations . . .
Such hatefulness and destruction of reputations, without cause, should not be allowed on this site . . . for it is the opposite of being Christlike.
Nang
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Well, yeah. That is why I do not recognize synergism in any form, as being legitimate theological truth.
O.K. Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. :up:
Is that what the Lord Jesus Christ did? Did he beat around the bush when it comes to the wicked? How about our apostle Paul?
Continued deception, as she leaves out the following verses, on strict order, from her father, the devil:
Acts 2 KJV
44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart,
47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
Obey the above, LAFraud.
I thought so.
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