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HisServant

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the church must also deal with heresy
-wolves in sheep clothing that lead others astray
-false teachings like
-Jesus is not God
-we don't have free will
-we don't have to work
-you will find these wolves right here at tol

Your church is the very embodyment of heresy.
 

chrysostom

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Words have meaning. Believing the words on the page/scripture means what it says, as it says it and to whom it says it is not "interpreting".

how do you account for all the different beliefs?
-if
-it is not due to different interpretations
 

HisServant

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how do you account for all the different beliefs?
-if
-it is not due to different interpretations

I account for all the different beliefs as the heritage of the RCC. It's groups of people who thing the believe, do not have the guidance of the holy spirit, and then spin scripture whatever which way they want to appeal to trying to get people to join their group.

People want to feel saved, they want to feel like they are on the right track, and its easy to prey on that feeling.
 

Nihilo

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True, however the Magisterium also teaches that the Church is much more than merely that.
Correct. When we say that "the Church teaches" something or other, we mean that the Church's magisterium (all bishops in communion with the archbishop of the Roman particular church; the Holy See) teaches it. It's a homonym. When we speak about the Church as the Body of Christ, we are talking about the communion of saints, which includes the clergy and the faithful, both living and departed; whether they are now being purified, or are already in heaven.
 

HisServant

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Correct. When we say that "the Church teaches" something or other, we mean that the Church's magisterium (all bishops in communion with the archbishop of the Roman particular church; the Holy See) teaches it. It's a homonym. When we speak about the Church as the Body of Christ, we are talking about the communion of saints, which includes the clergy and the faithful, both living and departed; whether they are now being purified, or are already in heaven.

Sounds like Mithraism to me.
 

KingdomRose

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Correct. When we say that "the Church teaches" something or other, we mean that the Church's magisterium (all bishops in communion with the archbishop of the Roman particular church; the Holy See) teaches it. It's a homonym. When we speak about the Church as the Body of Christ, we are talking about the communion of saints, which includes the clergy and the faithful, both living and departed; whether they are now being purified, or are already in heaven.

But the bishops all over the world are NOT in synchronization. The all have their own ideas, and the pope tells them to make their own rules. They don't teach the same things.

And the church fails mankind by not teaching clearly about God's Kingdom, which is an actual government, and that there will be humans living on EARTH forever.

See Daniel 2:44; Matthew 5:5; Psalm 37:9-11,29.
 

Nihilo

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But the bishops all over the world are NOT in synchronization.
The word is communion, not synchronization.
The all have their own ideas, and the pope tells them to make their own rules. They don't teach the same things.
Completely false in matters of faith, doctrine and morals. Else, they wouldn't all be in communion with the Holy See.
And the church fails mankind by not teaching clearly about God's Kingdom
False again.
which is an actual government
The Church here on earth now, is the kingdom of God in seed form.
and that there will be humans living on EARTH forever.

See Daniel 2:44; Matthew 5:5; Psalm 37:9-11,29.
The new earth.
 

KingdomRose

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The word is communion, not synchronization.
Completely false in matters of faith, doctrine and morals. Else, they wouldn't all be in communion with the Holy See.
False again.
The Church here on earth now, is the kingdom of God in seed form.
The new earth.

That's my point---they are NOT in communion with the See. Unless LACK of morals is considered. They are all in communion about that....anything goes. Yet the bishops are admonished to decide for themselves how they will lead their parishes.

And the Kingdom of God is not here "in seed form," whatever that means. The Kingdom of God is a real GOVERNMENT, and you don't know that because the Church doesn't want you to know that. Otherwise it would be in trouble with Caesar, wouldn't it? It's good buddies with Caesar, and Caesar doesn't want to know of any government that will overpower his own.

Didn't you bother reading Daniel 2:44, Matthew 5:5 and Psalm 37:9-11, 29 ?

Are you afraid you'll find out something?
 
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