the abomination of desolation

Ben Masada

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Israel/IS RA EL isn't an ethnic race according to flesh and blood genetics its light, It's a state of being that has no past or future nor does it cling to the shadows and types of the letter that fall to the ground and die when extroverted into secular history Romans 4:16-25 Luke 17:20-21 told in allegory, these people never really existed and are symbolic tales of what takes place within our own Kingdom. The only Kingdom is within you're own conscience where thoughts/seeds germinate into mortal or immortal awareness Galatians 4:24, Phil 2:5-7.

The only thing Israel is symbolic of is light. But Israel is real and the world would not be without Israel. Israel is the light of the world as Jesus said (Mat 5:14) Yes, the light unto the Gentiles as Isaiah said.(Isaiah 42:6)
 
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Evil.Eye.<(I)>

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what is the holy place?

I'll bite.

Two temples that belong to a cross hating conglomerate that used to be the largest empire ever, until WW1.

The founder of the group of people that made these temples created a people that ultimately toppled the Military Popes seat in Constantinople, and were previously at war with the Holy Roman Empire. We know these wars as "the crusades".

Though Ithe Vatican exists, the Holy Roman Empire fell that day.

Only the spiritual hand of Holy Rome remains.

The owners of those two temples have raped, beheaded, blown up, dismembered, crucified, tortured and performed many other horrible acts in the name of expanding the heart of this empire that stretched across the regions of all previous biblical empires.

This empire worships a god that is foreign to their fathers and venerate this god as the true god of Moses and Abraham, while simultaneously claiming that the descendants of Ishmael are their roots and the true people of "god".

This empire is now religious and it is literally waring against the entire globe, while desiring to change laws and reward people for bowing to their god and venerating their prophet as the final word.

They deny that Jesus is God's son in their holy book and in fact call it blasphemy to believe so in plain verbiage of their sacred text.

This empire is reforming and it is specifically quoted time after time as desiring to fully eliminate Israel, all Jews and Christians, and anyone who denies their way.

They behead people for not saying:

Allah is the greatest and Mohammad is his final prophet.

Were you referring to those two structures that have no true meaning to them except to disgrace the Temple Mount and attempt to stomp out true biblical history?

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chrysostom

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the dome of the rock is preventing the third temple
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the dome of the rock is preventing the daily sacrifice
 

Rondonmonson

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The dome did not "cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease".
Details matter.

I explained to him in POST #108 what the Abomination of Desolation is and to a lesser degree the LOGICAL TIMING of the event. I have recently taken an in depth look at the timing of the Abomination of Desolation so as to leave no doubt about the time of the AoD being an End Time Event:

Guy on another site asked me to "PROVE" that the Abomination of Desolation did not happen in 70 AD


The Abomination of Desolation CAN NOT be an event that happened in AD 70, and it can only be a End Time Event, and I can prove it via Scriptures, and I am sure I have proved it to you before.

Daniel 11:45 and Daniel 12:1-2......Mathew Chapter 24.......and Revelation chapter 12 all come together to prove the Abomination of Desolation has to be an END TIME EVENT.

Daniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him. {This is the Abomination of Desolation here}

12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

{ Moving Fast Here......You see the Anti-Christ makes his abode in the Holy City in 11:45, then Micheal STANDS UP (Rev. 12) and at this time, AT THIS TIME, there will be a Time of Trouble like never before. Now look at verse 2, at about the same time, just before actually (Rapture) we see that those that sleep ARISE some to everlasting Life. So this TIME OF TROUBLE happens at the exact time of the Rapture, so it has to be an END TIME EVENT !! }

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, {whoso readeth, let him understand} 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

{ Now please tell me you don't think the world ended in 70 AD !! Because the Holy Bible says those DAYS WILL BE SHORTENED else all Flesh will be destroyed. This is the EXACT SAME TIME (TROUBLES) as Daniel was speaking of, thus Jesus refers us to Daniel the Prophet. The Gospel must be preached unto all the world, then the END (TIMES) will come, thus when the Abomination of Desolation happens the Jews are to FLEE Judea, and they are told later in the chapter not to go out unto any False Prophets (where they wouldn't be protected) in the Desert or in Secret Chambers, and Jesus tells them to look for his COMING IN THE EASTERN SKIES !! Sounds like an END TIME EVENT doesn't it ? BECAUSE IT IS !! There is no doubt about it.}

Revelation 12:6 And the woman(Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; (Michael Stands Up)and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

{ This is VERY EASY to understand. All three passages correlate. Rev. 12 shows Israel Fleeing into the WILDERNESS at the exact time that Michael stands up and Kicks Satan out of Heaven. He comes down with GREAT WRATH, tries to get at Israel, but she is protected by God, thus he turns his anger to the REMNANT (Small part that's left) of her SEED (Jesus was the Seed) that keep the commandments of Jesus. As we see in Daniel, the Rapture happens at this time (actually just before, the Old Testament Prophets were never told in depth about the Rapture) as Daniel 12:2 says, so it CAN NOT BE 70 AD.........!!! Can not be 70 AD. The Time of Trouble in Daniel and Matthew are speaking bout the exact same time, and Jesus says the Abomination happens at this time. So its an END TIME EVENT, no matter how much people want it to be an AD 70 Event, it is not, and never could have been. Also, we see that Jesus says IF THOSE DAYS WERE NOT SHORTENED NO FLESH WOULD BE SAVED......Again, it is NOT A 70 AD Event !!! }
 
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Epoisses

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The abomination of desolation is an end-time event. If I had to speculate - it might be something like the man of sin recovering the ark of the covenant and marching it into the most holy of a rebuilt temple where he sits on top in a throne of light and declares himself to be God. Then he commands everyone to worship the Jews and the law and puts everyone else to death. Just speculating.
 

chrysostom

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so here is the exercise
if
you choose to accept it

using biblegateway

search for the word abomination and there will be three hits in daniel

9:27, 11:31, and 12:11

look at the first two in all english translations

it is easy to do, just click on any single passage and look at the bottom of the page for it in all english translations



now, can you tell if they refer to the temple or the temple place
this is not easy



now search

he shall
and
they shall

now it is easy



he is the Antiochus IV Epiphanes
the second beast of daniel

they are the second beast of the apocalype
the fourth beast of daniel

here are some details
 
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