Texas deaths blamed on lethal green

ffreeloader

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I posted the DOE order the article that the article that goes with this video and was completely ignored by the socialists here. I wonder why? Could it just be that these facts just don't go with the narrative they want to talk about? I also said how it was Biden's executive order that created this policy by the DOE. I was told I was insane to blame Biden. Well, facts are facts. The buck stops at Biden's desk.

Remember who came up with that saying about where the buck stops? A democrat named Harry Truman. I guess old Harry isn't too popular with today's socialists today.
 

eider

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Sure....... giving power generation and supply in to the hands of private investment isn't such a bright idea after all.
And it's very likely to happen more often from now on.
Brit newspapers are running an article about Polar Vortexes caused by Global Warming which in this instance have affected Texas and most of North America.

Texans need to prepare basic alternative fuels for emergency heating, just as most of us do here in the UK. For instance, we could manage home heating without electricity for a fortnight. It makes sense.

 

Omniskeptical

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Texas has a deregulated power grid. There's no such thing as a 'green new deal'.

Read something a bit less loopy...
I am sure there was a lot of regulation preventing Texas from getting energy from getting power from other states, and the windmills aggravated the grid. They didn't hold up.
 

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I don't think the Texas power grid is set up to import the 25,000 MW it needed.

There are a number of issues, so I am still looking forward to the report when it comes out.
I think we also need to face the facts: No system is set up to handle extreme conditions. It is simply too expensive to do so. It is a wonderful opportunity to try and pin the blame on somebody, but completely hurricane, earthquake and blizzard proof electrical systems (or any other public system) is just too expensive. We manage with systems that can handle 95-99% of the cases, then point our fingers at a convenient scapegoat when it doesn't handle the unusual emergency.
 

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I cannot remember a time when Doctor Who hasn't been BBC propaganda. It is even worse now.

I used to love DW. Had to stop watching it when they introduced Whittaker because things were becoming too politicized.
 

ok doser

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OOPs, I meant to say is that I am sure the power plants, and powerlines were built to code. Windmills are certainly not the answer.
Somebody (maybe you?) posted an overlay of the United Kingdom on top of the map of Texas. Imagine what the state of the entire United Kingdom would be, subjected to the same temperatures, from Kirkwall to Dover, from Falmouth to Londonderry.
 

Hilltrot

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I think we also need to face the facts: No system is set up to handle extreme conditions. It is simply too expensive to do so. It is a wonderful opportunity to try and pin the blame on somebody, but completely hurricane, earthquake and blizzard proof electrical systems (or any other public system) is just too expensive. We manage with systems that can handle 95-99% of the cases, then point our fingers at a convenient scapegoat when it doesn't handle the unusual emergency.
Texas does have an annual hurricane season an it tends to handle those quite well, but as you said systems are meant to handle most, but not every scenario.

That being said, The Ercot grid drop from 69,000 MW to less than 50,000 MW in less than an hour. The grid stayed at under 50,000 MW for several days. I'd like to know what exactly happened before placing blame. Was it the EPA? Was it simply the weather? Was "winterization" really the primary cause? I'd like to know what really happened as oppose to placing blame based off of political ideology. I don't care if the cat is white or black, as long as it catches mice.
 

ok doser

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I posted the DOE order the article that the article that goes with this video and was completely ignored by the socialists here.
@Omniskeptical
posted a link to the article that I quote below. It's obvious that those parroting MSM talking points didn't bother to read it.





Texas Deaths Blamed on Lethal Green Policies​

by Rebecca Terrell February 22, 2021
Parler Free Speech Social Network
Texas Deaths Blamed on Lethal Green Policies

Counties across Texas are reporting dozens of deaths related to last week’s violent winter storms that left millions without power. Hypothermia took many, such as an 11-year-old boy who died in his bed in his family’s unheated mobile home in Conroe. Carbon monoxide poisoning claimed the lives of an eight-year-old Houston girl and her mother; their family had started their car in the garage to keep warm in the bitter cold.
Just days before these tragedies, anticipating life-threatening winter conditions, Texas Governor Greg Abbott declared a state of disaster in “all 254 Texas counties.” The state’s power grid supervisor, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), had petitioned the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) to temporarily waive onerous regulatory quotas so it could ramp up production to weather the storm.
Biden’s DOE refused. His administration “basically ordered ERCOT to throttle its energy output by forcing it to comply with environmental green energy standards, while knowing full well Texans would freeze to death in their homes,” reports Adan Salazar for InfoWars.
DOE instead ordered ERCOT to purchase energy from outside the state, despite the fact that many of Texas’ neighbors were dealing with the same ferocious winter storm that the National Weather Service said stretched across 25 states, from southern Texas to northern Maine.
The Department of Energy also specified that, during the disaster, any power generated in Texas that exceeded federal emissions limits had to “be offered at a price no lower than $1,500/MWh.” (By comparison, ERCOT records a cost of $18.20 per megawatt-hour just one year ago, in February 2020. But DOE’s minimum bid pales in comparison to the $9,000 price tag set days later by ERCOT’s boss, the Public Utility Commission of Texas, due to record-setting demand and unprecedented scarcity of supply.)

DOE justified its lethal decision and price gouging tactics “because the additional generation may result in a conflict with environmental standards and requirements.” So much for the lives of Texans; at least the feds curbed excess carbon dioxide emissions during the storm.
Obviously oblivious to DOE’s shackling order, and in an embarrassing showcase of her ignorance of the basics of power generation and the electrical grid, in the midst of the catastrophe U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) tweeted the following outlandish claim: “The infrastructure failures in Texas are quite literally what happens when you *don’t* pursue a Green New Deal.”
What do engineers have to say about her assertion? “Just like every leftist idea, it’s completely the opposite of the truth.” So says consulting engineer Ed Hiserodt, energy correspondent for The New American and author of the myth-dispelling book Underexposed: What if Radiation Is Actually Good for You?”
Hiserodt describes what actually caused the Lone Star State’s deep freeze debacle. “The system in Texas is inherently unstable because so much of it relies on wind-generated electricity,” he explains. The U.S. Energy Information Administration reported last October that 23 percent of Texans’ energy comes from wind turbines, a fact that has earned the state accolades from such bastions of socialism as CNN and the World Economic Forum. A full half of those West Texas turbines froze during last week’s storm. So why couldn’t coal, natural gas or nuclear step in to fill the gaps?
“It’s not as simple as flipping a switch,” Hiserodt explains. “Leftists like AOC, who think we can just snap our fingers and generate electricity, are insane.” Understanding why this is true requires knowledge of how an electrical grid works. The fundamental idea to remember is that energy must be used as it is generated and generated as it is used. That is why organizations such as ERCOT are known in the industry as “frequency chasers.” They keep the grid stable by continually monitoring supply and demand. In more technical terms, they keep frequency and voltage along the grid stable to prevent surges and blackouts.
“Wind is so variable, you just can’t rely on it to maintain baseload [i.e., fundamental needs], let alone demand fluctuations above that,” says Hiserodt, “which is why the frequency chasers complain whenever wind makes up more than 10 percent of a grid’s power supply.” The situation is then intrinsically unstable, unlike a grid based on coal, where “all you have to do is turn the boiler up or down to keep the frequency and voltages stable.”
So again, why couldn’t they just turn the boilers up last week? “It’s because of government mandates,” explains Hiserodt. “Wind turbines get priority. You have to use the windmills before the other power plants can be exploited.” Adding fuel to this unstable fire, “wind is so overly-subsidized with production tax credits, renewable energy certificates and other government subsidies, coal-fired plants — along with natural gas and nuclear — can’t compete. These plants have to back off out of their efficiency range, or they will have to pay for the unused power they produce. If the wind stops, it takes time — and a lot of energy — to bring the reliable producers back online.”
Hiserodt says the best way to ensure against another catastrophe such as we saw in Texas last week is to stop all government subsidies, let the playing field level itself, and “may the best man win.” In predicting the outcome, Hiserodt points to leftist investor Warren Buffet who once infamously stated: “We get a tax credit if we build a lot of wind farms. That’s the only reason to build them. They don’t make sense without the tax credit.”
 

Hilltrot

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Texas willingly went into wind and opposed coal. There are many reasons why Texans don’t want coal. One of the main reasons is that it’s an energy form Texas does not produce itself.

I hear conflicting reports about the wind energy in Texas during the crisis. Ercot said wind was producing. Texas is the largest producer of wind energy. Texans did not and does not want to give up wind energy.

I really want to wait for the investigations.
 
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