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[Right Divider]

I don't spend a lot of time thinking about those who will be or are damned.

Predestination and reprobation are taught in Reformed Theology and I've looked at Scripture that supports this doctrine.

Since God divinely intervenes and justifies those He chooses, who am I to argue?

I pray continuously for those who are in unbelief as I want for them the same joy and friendship I have with God.

Those two statements are completely CONTRADICTORY. Just so you know.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

As you can see EW, I like to keep things logical.

 

[Eagles Wings]

We weren't Church goers per se. We went to church on Christmas and Easter.

Good to know they came to know the Lord.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Those two statements are completely CONTRADICTORY. Just so you know.

True. A paradox has been discovered.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Good to know they came to know the Lord.

Yep.

 

[Eagles Wings]

Why would a Reformed believer pray for anyone to be saved? Because they are aware of the fact that God's sovereignty will prevail every time?

Deo Volente, in other words, we always pray for the will of the Lord.

 

[Eagles Wings]

Those two statements are completely CONTRADICTORY. Just so you know.

Unregenerate and reprobate are not the same. Only God knows the ultimate, everlasting state of each person.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Deo Volente, in other words, we always pray for the will of the Lord.

However, you realize His sovereign will cannot be nullified, correct?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Unregenerate and reprobate are not the same. Only God knows the ultimate, everlasting state of each person.

Nang believes that one must first be regenerated before they can receive saving faith. Is that what you believe?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Nang's belief places the proverbial "Cart before the horse."

 

[Right Divider]

Unregenerate and reprobate are not the same. Only God knows the ultimate, everlasting state of each person.

But, according to the way that I understand your interpretation of God's will .... it will all happen the same no matter what we humans do.

The saved will be saved and the damned will be damned.

My understanding of your theology is that we are all just puppets having our strings pulled.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

EW, in your opinion, is it really necessary to pray for the salvation of our loved ones or strangers?

 

[Eagles Wings]

But, according to the way that I understand your interpretation of God's will .... it will all happen the same no matter what we humans do.

The saved will be saved and the damned will be damned.

My understanding of your theology is that we are all just puppets having our strings pulled.

The crux of this is how do we each understand "free will". This is the centuries old Arminius vs Augustine debate. I am still on a big learning curve, however, I believe God saves and damns according to His good pleasure. One only has to read through the Old Testament to realize this.

 

[Eagles Wings]

EW, in your opinion, is it really necessary to pray for the salvation of our loved ones or strangers?

ALL prayer to our Lord, is for our benefit, not to change His mind, GM.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Is it even necessary to witness Christ to others? If God has already chosen before the foundation of the world who would be saved and who would be damned, why bother to tell anyone about eternal life?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

ALL prayer to our Lord, is for our benefit, not to change His mind, GM.

How does it "benefit" us?

 

[Eagles Wings]

Nang believes that one must first be regenerated before they can receive saving faith. Is that what you believe?

Since regenerated means, born-again, in the Spirit, one must have that quickening and enlightening of mind and heart that leads to faith. That's how I understand the order of the work of God in salvation.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Wouldn't we just be, going through the motions?

 

[Eagles Wings]

How does it "benefit" us?

We are with the One we love most. We have His friendship, His covenant, His assurance that He will keep and hold us. We sing and pray the Psalms to give Him praise and glory due Him. He fills our heart and mine with Himself.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

ALL prayer to our Lord, is for our benefit, not to change His mind, GM.

Can you provide some Scripture that backs up your assumption?