Self defense systems

[xAvarice]

But they haven't accidentally killed there target which is a distinct possibility when you start attacking the neck.

True, interesting point.

Which is why Krav emphasizes GETTING AWAY as first priority.
Also, most instructors will tell you that if held at gunpoint, your money's not worth your life.

Krav maga may be flawless, but it's still overrated. It's praised by many people who know nothing about it.

You know what emphasises getting away more than krav maga? Telling people to run away and not giving them grandiose ideas of heroism.

I hope they don't tell people to always give money to someone pointing a gun at them... you could give away your chance to actually stop them shooting you in the face - if someone's pointing a gun at you, there's a good chance they intend to kill you.

 

[xAvarice]

All to get you a break free and run and/or scream time.

Does screaming even work any longer in the UK? People here never stop screaming and shouting, I've learnt to ignore it.

 

[Buzzword]

You know what emphasises getting away more than krav maga? Telling people to run away and not giving them grandiose ideas of heroism.

Which is why anyone who has trained under an actual instructor can tell the difference between when you can get away without fighting and when you have to fight to get away.

Again, it's part of basic Krav training.

That ignorant people praise a particular system without actually being trained in it doesn't diminish the efficacy of the system.

I hope they don't tell people to always give money to someone pointing a gun at them... you could give away your chance to actually stop them shooting you in the face - if someone's pointing a gun at you, there's a good chance they intend to kill you.

So what, then, is your solution to someone pointing a gun in your face and demanding money?

 

[xAvarice]

So what, then, is your solution to someone pointing a gun in your face and demanding money?

In my town? Well, it's happening twice - once, I laughed at them and told them to pull the trigger. (It didn't look real and the chances of it being real were... good for me.)

The second time I was being accused of racism because my friend didn't want to come near these gangster-looking Muslims. And humour and some straight talking did me a favour.

If someone was seriously pointing a real gun at me, without a mask on or trying to conceal their face? Then I'd try to take it off them as quickly as possible. What choice would I have?

As for the ignorant praising it not making it less useful - I completely agree with you. This is what I've been saying all along. :idunno:

 

[This Charming Manc]

I think you distinguish between different screams, if your a girl you are probably going to be run down by the guy you just stunned within 10 seconds, so use the time to run and scream, rather than just run.

Does screaming even work any longer in the UK? People here never stop screaming and shouting, I've learnt to ignore it.

 

[Angel4Truth]

I think you distinguish between different screams, if your a girl you are probably going to be run down by the guy you just stunned within 10 seconds, so use the time to run and scream, rather than just run.

Or you could just whip out a small gun and chances are he isnt going to keep after you

 

[intojoy]

I was wondering what are the best self defense fighting systems to defend yourself in a real world situation? Have you had to defend yourself from a would be attacker? If so how did it go?

Learn to box.




Pray for the peace of Jerusalem

 

[intojoy]

Once I had to intervene and stop a fight between my pops and a gangbanger who was ready to strike. My lil half bro (4) was in the line of fire so I pulled the trigger of an overhand right. The shot landed on his chin and the impact caused his skin to split apart, as soon as my knuckle touched his chin he inhaled with a loud snoring intake of air and his head dropped like a ten pound sack of rice.

I was in the gym that month training for a fight so everything was a lighting quick reflex. I would never do that to anyone on the street even if they insisted on fighting, I got nothing to prove. But I guess I freaked out that lil bro was toddling in the way so I jumped the gun. I felt bad because I hit the guy way to hard. If the door had not been behind him to take his shoulders in the unconscious slide down, his head would've splattered on the stone tile. Thus my insistence on walking away from fights. But I taught my daughters to punch, at 15, and 16.they know to aim for the chin and refuse to get into a car by a thug or kidnapper. Even if he's got a gun, shoot that knuckle to the chin and watch a fool's eyes roll back. If the first shot doesn't put him to sleep the second and third will.

One thing to know about knocking people out is its not how hard you get hit but how clean. If you work on simple straight punches every day after a couple of years you can knock out anyone.

Keep the peace and ...


Pray for the peace of Jerusalem

 

[The Berean]

I stumbled across this neat website called No-Nonsense Self Defense. The guy who runs the website spends a lot of time discussing that martial arts are not self defense are not designed to be. He goes into lots of other areas including the legal definition of "self defense" and other issues people must consider when apply self defense. He makes it point to say that fighting is NOT self defense.

A different perspective on self-defense training

Are Martial Arts Self-Defense?

Warning: There is occasional profanity in some of the articles but nothing crazy.

 

[OCTOBER23]

BUY A GUN

Hire Bruce Lee , oh sorry, HE DEAD............

 

[Spitfire]

Guns aren't always practical and people can take your guns from you.

 

[bybee]

I was wondering what are the best self defense fighting systems to defend yourself in a real world situation? Have you had to defend yourself from a would be attacker? If so how did it go?

Once, on a date with a fellow who was 6'2'' I had to hang on to my girdle for dear life! I was successful he was not!

 

[musterion]

I have not tried it myself but I've heard a lot of good things about the liberal self-defense tactic: scream like a woman, void bodily waste on yourself, plead for your life and hope the perp walks away in disgust and/or the cops heard you.

 

[Truster]

I was wondering what are the best self defense fighting systems to defend yourself in a real world situation? Have you had to defend yourself from a would be attacker? If so how did it go?

It's useful to carry a piece of white chalk and just before it kicks off hand it to the loudest and biggest. Then explain it will come in useful when they draw the line around his body. Those listening normally start laughing and you should join in and so the big guy has no option but to join in as well. Take the chalk back and this is really important, because you must then say plan B is the chalk can be used to mark my body...laughter and the big guy is off the hook.

This is a work of fiction, but please, let me know the results if you try it.

 

[Huckleberry]

Disciple Caine: "Master Tae, What is the best way to deal with force?"
Master Tae: "As we prize peace and quiet above victory, there is a simple and preferred method…Run away."

I've both trained and dabbled in a wide variety of self defense forms (as well as some purely offensive), but I pursue and hold to any and all of them only as alternatives to that most basic method. I believe it's foolish to do otherwise.

 

[musterion]

I agree. My problem is with those who insist it's the only appropriate and justified tactic in any conceivable hostile situation.

 

[Truster]

Disciple Caine: "Master Tae, What is the best way to deal with force?"
Master Tae: "As we prize peace and quiet above victory, there is a simple and preferred method…Run away."

I've both trained and dabbled in a wide variety of self defense forms (as well as some purely offensive), but I pursue and hold to any and all of them only as alternatives to that most basic method. I believe it's foolish to do otherwise.

Walter Mitty.

 

[Daniel1611]

I practiced Tang Soo Do for years until I was 18. It's a good martial arts style. I had incredible instructors so I learned a lot. I also have a concealed carry permit and I carry a hand gun which is great for self defense too. If it's legal to carry a gun in your area, that's the best bet probably.

 

[The Berean]

I practiced Tang Soo Do for years until I was 18. It's a good martial arts style. I had incredible instructors so I learned a lot. I also have a concealed carry permit and I carry a hand gun which is great for self defense too. If it's legal to carry a gun in your area, that's the best bet probably.

Several other TOLers carry concealed weapons. What led you to decide to do this? Do feel the area that you live in is dangerous enough that you felt the need to carry a concealed weapon?

 

[Daniel1611]

Several other TOLers carry concealed weapons. What led you to decide to do this? Do feel the area that you live in is dangerous enough that you felt the need to carry a concealed weapon?

It's not super dangerous here, but there is some crime. I live in a city right outside Pittsburgh so it's worth it to have one. That being said, anywhere can be dangerous. It doesn't matter where you are. I'd rather have a gun and not need it than not have one and wish I did.

The reason I originally bought a hand gun, to be quite honest, was because of the things I was doing at the time. I thought it was a good idea to carry because of the people I was dealing with and things I was doing. And I was also living with a girlfriend who has an ex-husband who was getting paroled after a convicted rape who wanted to meet up Old West style. For all these reasons, I decided to get a carry permit. But regardless, I still want one just because of how dangerous America is anymore. I'd rather be able to sufficiently defend myself and my family than not.