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I don't lie. You went against me for saying we have to do what Jesus says to do to get saved, like HUMBLE YOURSELF, REPENT OF YOUR SINS.
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I don't lie. You went against me for saying we have to do what Jesus says to do to get saved, like HUMBLE YOURSELF, REPENT OF YOUR SINS.
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Your STORY again. Don't worry, much of Churchianity agrees with you. But then again, many of them are unsaved also.
Here you go BROAD-BRUSHING Gentiles again.
MANY gentiles did NOT reject Him. See the Canaanite woman in Matthew 15:21-28.
Indeed.
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You just tried to turn MY WORDS into something that I DID NOT SAY.... That's lying at its most disgusting.
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The people in the desert died WHY?
THERE WAS A PRIEST IN THE DESERT.
That's a lie!
You do exactly what you falsely accuse me of doing.
Pay attention, for goodness sake!
The Canaanite woman DID NOT OBEY AND GO THROUGH THE HIGH PRIEST!
It is why she had to wait until JESUS BECAME THE HIGH PRIEST!!!
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Where did you get that? That has NOTHING to do with the topic.
You make false claims and always without scripture (even thought you'd twist the scripture anyway).
And she was PRAISED by CHRIST for her GREAT FAITH!
YOU will NOT be praised for your "great obedience".
You should take up a career as a fiction writer.
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You lie when you say that.
No answer? Cat got your tongue?
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See the stupid reason RD calls me a liar.
He is what he accuses me of being, and worse, because he is abusive.
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Jesus was obedient so that WE COULD HAVE HIM TO BE OBEDIENT TO.
Jesus, High Priest of a Better Covenant
Hebrews 8:1 Now the point in what we are saying is this: we have such a high priest, one who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven,
Hebrews 10:12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,
Hebrews 12:2 looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.
1 Peter 3:22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.
Revelation 3:21 The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.
Jesus, High Priest of a Better Covenant
Hebrews 8:1 Now the point in what we are saying is this: we have such a high priest, one who is seated at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven,
Hebrews 10:12 But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,
Hebrews 12:2 looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God.
1 Peter 3:22 who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.
Revelation 3:21 The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.
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Do you just say anything? Read the thread more carefully.
Answer the question or I will take it that you don't know how to be saved.
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What did you say about GENTILES and PRIESTS?
You don't think the people in the desert with Moses and Aaron has anything to do with OBEYING and priestly things?
Jesus called her a dog. She was called a dog because she didn't obey the Father.
She was praised for her faith---AND?
Jesus came to make a New Covenant based on faith.
When Jesus died and was raised again and ascended, he is the high priest for ALL.
That is what you believe in, fiction.
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I wrote post 228 for you.
It is to your loss if you don't believe what I am telling you from the Bible.
Post 228 is written to Right Divider. Answer the question. Is salvation through the BLOOD of JESUS or through obedience?
What was it that Jesus said to her when she came to him?
Did it have anything to do with obedience?
No.
"O woman, great is your faith!"
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Jesus saves us all on his own, and he tells us whom he saves. Jesus says he saves those who obey him, humble themselves, repent of their sins, and call on him. When we repent of our sins to him, we have to believe that he is raised from the dead and seated on God's Throne, and that his blood washes away the sins we repent of doing.
That is why Paul taught repent, have faith, and prove your repentance.
Paul taught that to Jews, Greeks, and Gentiles.
The question was not answered. It is a an either or question. Either we are saved by blood or by obedience, not both. Which is it? Waiting for your answer.
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You have to do both. You aren't going to have your sins washed if you don't humble yourself and repent of them. There is no either or. Obey Jesus.
WRONG!!! You receive Christ through surrender! The only thing that saves you is the BLOOD of the CROSS shed at Calvary. Through your own admission of needing both you admit to salvation through works! Give up that heretical teaching and preach a Gospel of Grace and Grace alone. You are now responsible to choose which you will do. No one can do it for you it is for you alone to do.
[h=1]1 Peter 1:18-19 New American Standard Bible (NASB)[/h]
18 knowing that you were not [a]redeemed with perishable things like silver or gold from your futile way of life inherited from your forefathers, 19 but with precious blood, as of a lamb unblemished and spotless, the blood of Christ.
[h=1]1 Peter 2:24 New American Standard Bible (NASB)[/h]
24 and He Himself [a]bore our sins in His body on the [b]cross, so that we might die to [c]sin and live to righteousness; for by His [d]wounds you were healed.
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I can give you scripture references for everything that I said, but you say wrong, and then you say something that isn't in the Bible.
No such thing as grace meaning what you say.
You have to do what Jesus says.
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