Again,
Why would Calvinist ministers bother asking the elect to repent when they believe the elect are not able to not repent and therefore already repenting?
Can you please answer this directly?
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Why would Calvinist ministers bother asking the elect to repent when they believe the elect are not able to not repent and therefore already repenting?
Can you please answer this directly?
I just did. You need to broaden your perspective of predestination to understand it.
What's your problem with my logic you can't seem to answer my question directly?
You answered a different question perhaps, not mine.
Again,
Why would Calvinist ministers bother asking the elect to repent when they believe the elect are not able to not repent and therefore already repenting?
But if it's too difficult for you to answer, I won't force you to.
fishrovmen
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There is no logical answer to your question. Any sane minister who already sees someone "repenting" of something would not "ask" them to "repent".
fishrovmen
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If I know my kid is not able to not take the trash out, and he is already taking it out, why would I ask him to take it out? He already thinks I am nuts sometimes.
Thank you.
I guess Calvinist ministers are starting to wonder why God now COMMANDS every man everywhere to repent.
That's an issue Calvinist ministers need to tackle among themselves. They know that God now commands every man everywhere to repent.
It's not a difficult question, I already answered it. It's a difficult answer for you, is all. You're simply masquerading what you think is a rebuttal to Calvinism as an inquiry and refusing anything a person tells you.
Anti-Calvinists don't seem to comprehend the fact that Calvin was a very brilliant theologian and these sort of things yall throw against it is just stupid_
fishrovmen
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Have you ever met a "Calvinist minister" who actually believes that if someone is not able to not do something, that it is already done?
If Calvin were here he will answer my question.
Pretending to have answered my question when you have not is stupidity.
fishrovmen
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Are you referring to repentance from dead works to serve the living God? or repentance from a sinful habit or lifestyle? Explain where your question comes from.
Nope. That's a problem they have with their doctrine concerning election.
Ask them, they will tell you things other than a direct answer to your question and insist they have already answered your question. Case on hand: Crucible.
I'm referring to anything that needs repenting from.
Repentance is change of mind for that which is good. Instead of doing evil, do good. IOW, overcome evil with good (Rom 12:21).
fishrovmen
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So how do you know that any "Calvinist minister" actually believes what you think they believe, if you've never met one? I've never heard of even one myself. They must be an extremely rare folk.
That's what Calvinism teaches, and Calvinist ministers are supposed to believe and teach Calvinism.
fishrovmen
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Can you cite a statement from a Calvinistic source that proves this?
You could google it and prove it yourself.
You could start with this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvinism#Five_points_of_Calvinism
fishrovmen
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I have no interest in that really. I was just curious to see if you actually had any evidence, or just giving us your version of what Calvinism taught.