Riots in Ferguson MO. USA

[THall]

I count on the Ruach to convict me and my husband to say something if he felt I was off. But just like God's love, my husband's love includes an understanding heart. He knows how far I've come because he has had to hold my hand throughout our marriage when the nightmares came and he's had to have patience when I couldn't bear for him to touch me and he's had to endure the moments when despite his being able to touch me, I withdrew where he could not reach me. So, my husband told me that it was okay for me to pal around with the girls so to speak. He considered it freedom for me from the pain. I don't expect you to understand that because you have not exhibited God's love to anyone here except CW who behaves exactly like you and quite possibly is you. The point is, you're not affecting me like you think you are. You are only a bad witness of the good Yeshua has done in your life. You're not embarrassing me. You're embarrassing Him.

And then there is the
simple truth. You embarrass
you.

You embarrass God, and

You embarrass your husband

with YOUR behavior.

You and you alone are

responsible

and

ACCOUNTABLE

for

YOUR

behavior.

 

[Eeset]

And then there is the
simple truth. You embarrass
you.

You embarrass God, and

You embarrass your husband

with YOUR behavior.

You and you alone are

responsible

and

ACCOUNTABLE

for

YOUR

behavior.

You sir are an idiot. You probably have holes in your pockets.

 

[THall]

Touch me, I sizzle. Compared to me IMJ is a prude.

OH, :doh:

I missed the

'more left than right'

part of your profile.

That sure cools you off
about 3,000 degrees Kelvin.

 

[Nick M]

I join a Christian forum and I stumble into this on the first thread? Hopefully it doesn't set the tone going forward.

Welcome to TOL. :wave:

I am happy to give a new atheist his first neg rep.

 

[THall]

You sir are an idiot. You probably have holes in your pockets.

Yes, because being
responsible for your
own behavior is such
an idiotic concept to
gals like you who are


idiots.

Maybe you and IMJ
can start a conc club
here at TOL? You would
make Knight so proud!

My pockets are mesh
they have many holes,
a lucky guess on your part.

 

[IMJerusha]

Another atheist come to tell those that know and love Yah Shua Messiah how to think, speak and live.

Not a whole lot different from Christians telling atheists how to think, speak and live, eh? 1 Corinthians 13.

 

[Eeset]

Yes, because being
responsible for your
own behavior is such
an idiotic concept to
gals like you who are


idiots.

Maybe you and IMJ
can start a conc club
here at TOL? You would
make Knight so proud!

My pockets are mesh
they have many holes,
a lucky guess on your part.

God created everything. That would include sex and the "hots". Please tell me you are not the typical right wing sanctimonious caricature that is a public prude with a healthy stash of porno flicks and a 50 inch screen to enjoy them on. :mock: Closet case

 

[THall]

God created everything. That would include sex and the "hots". Please tell me you are not the typical right wing sanctimonious caricature that is a public prude with a healthy stash of porno flicks and a 50 inch screen to enjoy them on. :mock: Closet case

God did not
create sin, that is
the doing of men and
in your case women.

My life is private and
involves one woman of
an appropriate age, so
I have no need for your
tools of debauchery, nor
do I have a need to violate
God's created and appropriate
design for a proper relationship
which is the foundation for
God's family structure. lt is
beginning to look like your
family life had some cracks
in that structure. Seek help.

I did watch Tom Arnold
on my 60 inch flat screen
last night, trying to keep
up with Bear G. rather
wholesome outdoor adventure.
It was nice to see a humble
addict trying to turn his life
around so he could be a
better father.

 

[Granite]

Anybody else feel like getting back on topic?

 

[Eeset]

God did not
create sin, that is
the doing of men and
in your case women.

My life is private and
involves one woman of
an appropriate age, so
I have no need for your
tools of debauchery, nor
do I have a need to violate
God's created and appropriate
design for a proper relationship
which is the foundation for
God's family structure. lt is
beginning to look like your
family life had some cracks
in that structure. Seek help.

You are full of it. Retarded would be a step up for you.

 

[IMJerusha]

Not really true, we have
74 other municipalities all
within a 20 mile radius, and
the blacks that want jobs find
them within a 10 mile radius, and
yes we have public transportation.
You don't even need a car here to
hold down a job. You just need the
desire to have a job. The blacks that
don't have work here, choose not to
work, or are so messed up and
devoid of english skills, no one will
hire them. Many being unemployable
high school dropouts, without skills.
"Gangbangers"

A forthright analysis must
include the fact that many
of these unemployed chose
to drop out of school, and
share the responsibility of their
plight.

I am not sure why you are speaking as though you are a member of the St. Louis Police. If your words are to be believed, you are a contractor, a civilian.

 

[PureX]

Not really true, we have
74 other municipalities all
within a 20 mile radius, and
the blacks that want jobs find
them within a 10 mile radius, and
yes we have public transportation.
You don't even need a car here to
hold down a job. You just need the
desire to have a job. The blacks that
don't have work here, choose not to
work, or are so messed up and
devoid of english skills, no one will
hire them. Many being unemployable
high school dropouts, without skills.
"Gangbangers"

A forthright analysis must
include the fact that many
of these unemployed chose
to drop out of school, and
share the responsibility of their
plight.

As long as you imagine that people choose to be poor, uneducated, unemployed, and hopeless, you can pretend that none of it is society's (and by extension, your) fault. And as long as you imagine that for some mysterious reason, the majority of black people, especially men, choose to live in such a self-destructive condition, you can pretend that our society (and by extension, you) are not racist. So that as long as you can continue to blame others, you can continue to imagine that you are blameless, yourself.

But that isn't how the world works, and that isn't the truth about how human beings choose to live. The truth is that most human beings will become what they are expected and coerced into becoming by the environment in which they find themselves, because human beings do not live in isolation. And they don't see themselves or the world around them through their own independent lens. They see themselves and their place in the world however they are taught to see them by the people around them and by the world as they experience it. And we (you) are a part of that experience. Your blame becomes a part of their reality. Your disregard for them, and for their experience of life becomes a part of their experience of life, and is therefor partly responsible for who they are as a result of that experience, and for why they are that way.

It's only the ignoramus and the coward that doesn't recognize that he is part of a social collective, and that he is therefor partly responsible for how that social collective behaves toward individual human beings - and for the damage done to them as a result. I hesitate to call anyone an ignoramus or a coward, directly, but when they continue to deny the suffering and abuse of others so that they can pretend that they are in no way responsible for it … well, I can see for myself who and what they are. I know where the labels belong.

 

[Tambora]

Can you get as
hot as your avatar?

You think the woman as her avatar is hot.
Well, i'll be.

 

[THall]

As long as you imagine that people choose to be poor, uneducated, unemployed, and hopeless, you can pretend that none of it is society's (and by extension, your) fault. And as long as you imagine that for some mysterious reason, the majority of black people, especially men, choose to live in such a self-destructive condition, you can pretend that our society (and by extension, you) are not racist. So that as long as you can continue to blame others, you can imagine that you are blameless, yourself.

But that isn't how the world works, and that isn't the truth about how human beings choose to live. The truth is that most human beings will become what they are expected, and coerced into becoming by the environment in which they find themselves. Because human being do not live in isolation. And they don't see themselves of the world around them through their own independent lens. They see themselves and their place in the world however they are taught to by the people around them and the part of the world that they experience.

And we (you) are a part of that experience. Your blame becomes a part of their reality. Your disregard for them, and for their experience of life becomes a part of their experience of life, and is therefor partly responsible for who they are as a result, and for why they are that way.

It's only the ignoramus and the coward that doesn't recognize that he is part of a social collective, and that he is therefor partly responsible for how that social collective behaves toward other human beings - and for the damage done to others as a result. I hesitate to call anyone an ignoramus or a coward, directly, but when they continue to deny the suffering and abuse of others, so that they can pretend that they are in no way responsible for it … well, I can see for myself who and what they are.

I don't imagine anything,
I live here and describe to
you what is going on.
You don't choose to be poor,
but you do choose to drop out
of school and you then disadvantage
yourself. You may be born poor,
but you have to choose to be stupid.
And the fact is many choose to be smart
when they are poor and they wind up
with good jobs just like the Highway
Patrol Captain and get out of poverty.

 

[Eeset]

I don't imagine anything,
I live here and describe to
you what is going on.
You don't choose to be poor,
but you do choose to drop out
of school and you then disadvantage
yourself. You may be born poor,
but you have to choose to be stupid.
And the fact is many choose to be smart
when they are poor and they wind up
with good jobs just like the Highway
Patrol Captain and get out of poverty.

We incarcerate them as teenagers in ridiculous rates in a very racial pattern. Try landing a job with a criminal record.

 

[Fiat Tenebris]

Spoiler

He wishes to preach to an audience that stays silent and only nods in agreement.

Well, what he wants and what he gets are clearly two quite different things.

He's earned a member who'll stay silent and only shake my head in disagreement.

I've little time for people like that.

Many Christian posters here seem to have some substance, though after one and half decade of atheism (beginning at birth as does all lack of religion) I still struggle to find original arguments and statements in favour even by the most creative.

Don't misunderstand me, I will not fall into a fallacy as lazy as the above, the arguments don't change because it's an ancient concept - there's little room for change.

My point is that I would have been convinced by now, and whilst my faculties remain intact, I'm quite sure I will remain unconvinced.

The purpose I possess is to influence others and validate my beliefs, there's a chance I'm gravely mistaken. Most vehemently held views are such due to a lack of perspective and ignorance of context.

Think of conspiracy theories. "HOW COULD HE? THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT, THERE NEVER COULD BE."

And the justification is right around the corner, ready to leap on them and drag them back to a brilliantly illuminated lair.

Sorry for waffling, I thought an introduction thread was below me, but clearly derailment is not. Mayhaps I can redeem myself with a spoiler tag.

 

[Eeset]

Spoiler

Well, what he wants and what he gets are clearly two quite different things.

He's earned a member who'll stay silent and only shake my head in disagreement.

I've little time for people like that.

Many Christian posters here seem to have some substance, though after one and half decade of atheism (beginning at birth as does all lack of religion) I still struggle to find original arguments and statements in favour even by the most creative.

Don't misunderstand me, I will not fall into a fallacy as lazy as the above, the arguments don't change because it's an ancient concept - there's little room for change.

My point is that I would have been convinced by now, and whilst my faculties remain intact, I'm quite sure I will remain unconvinced.

The purpose I possess is to influence others and validate my beliefs, there's a chance I'm gravely mistaken. Most vehemently held views are such due to a lack of perspective and ignorance of context.

Think of conspiracy theories. "HOW COULD HE? THERE'S NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT, THERE NEVER COULD BE."

And the justification is right around the corner, ready to leap on them and drag them back to a brilliantly illuminated lair.

Sorry for waffling, I thought an introduction thread was below me, but clearly derailment is not. Mayhaps I can redeem myself with a spoiler tag.

Beneath you how?

 

[IMJerusha]

Touch me, I sizzle. Compared to me IMJ is a prude.

I beg your pardon? I still get warm. I ain't dead yet!
Have you seen my inhaler?

 

[IMJerusha]

And then there is the
simple truth. You embarrass
you.

I have, at times, that's for certain.

You embarrass God,

I have at times, that's for certain.

and You embarrass your husband with YOUR behavior.

I have at times, that's for certain, but he's so darned cute I can't help myself.

You and you alone are responsible
and ACCOUNTABLE for YOUR behavior.

That's true of all of us. Romans 3:10
What is important for you to remember is that what is in my heart can only be seen by God and you are not He.
And that is the simple truth. :carryon:

 

[99lamb]

We incarcerate them as teenagers in ridiculous rates in a very racial pattern. Try landing a job with a criminal record.

do you mean 'they' are just arrested without cause?
and who is the 'we' in your scenario?