Right Wing Fanatic

[Sherman]

Let try this again. My first try didn't work.

I am a sola scriptura messianic. I am also very conservative in my social views. I think America is drinking out of toilet at present with this gay rights and abortion stuff.

 

[chrysostom]

why don't you explain what a Messianic Jew is?

 

[Sherman]

A Messianic Jew is a person of Jewish heritage that believes that Jesus is the Messiah. They do come in many flavors. I am Sola Scriptura and Trinitarian. I reject the Talmud as traditions of men. I like to call it the 'tall mud'. I learned that from a messianic Rabbi.

 

[chrysostom]

A Messianic Jew is a person of Jewish heritage that believes that Jesus is the Messiah. They do come in many flavors. I am Sola Scriptura and Trinitarian. I reject the Talmud as traditions of men. I like to call it the 'tall mud'. I learned that from a messianic Rabbi.

is there a difference between the Messiah and the Christ?

 

[steko]

A Messianic Jew is a person of Jewish heritage that believes that Jesus is the Messiah. They do come in many flavors. I am Sola Scriptura and Trinitarian. I reject the Talmud as traditions of men. I like to call it the 'tall mud'. I learned that from a messianic Rabbi.

Welcome to TOL, Inzl Kett!lain:

 

[Sherman]

is there a difference between the Messiah and the Christ?

They mean the same thing. No difference.

Thanks for the welcome Steko.

 

[steko]

is there a difference between the Messiah and the Christ?

Messiah, Hebrew: משיח‎‎; mashiah, moshiah, mashiach, or moshiach

Christ, Greek: χριστου; christos

Both mean 'the annointed one'.

 

[Sherman]

Messiah, Hebrew: משיח‎‎; mashiah, moshiah, mashiach, or moshiach

Christ, Greek: χριστου; christos

Both mean 'the annointed one'.

I wish I could thumb you up, but I have a rep power of zero.

 

[aSeattleConserv]

Let try this again. My first try didn't work.

I am a sola scriptura messianic. I am also very conservative in my social views. I think America is drinking out of toilet at present with this gay rights and abortion stuff.

Agreed. Now let's talk about Israel:

Openly gay soldiers serve without hindrance in all branches of the military. Discrimination against gay and lesbian soldiers in recruitment, placement and promotion is prohibited in Israel.[10]

Since 1993,[citation needed] homosexuals have been allowed to openly serve in the military, including special units.

Israel also has one of the highest percentages of support for same-sex marriage in the world, with 61% of Israelis supporting civil marriage for same-sex couples.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Israel

Abortion:

...about 40,000 abortions are carried out in Israel every year.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Health/abort1.html

A fairly high number considering their population is around 7.5 million.

So will God bless the Jewish State of Israel for ignoring His Word? (By their "fruits" you will know them).

 

[BabyChristian]

Welcome Inzl Kett :wave:

I wish I could thumb you up, but I have a rep power of zero.

I gave you some rep.

 

[Sherman]

Agreed. Now let's talk about Israel:

Openly gay soldiers serve without hindrance in all branches of the military. Discrimination against gay and lesbian soldiers in recruitment, placement and promotion is prohibited in Israel.[10]

Since 1993,[citation needed] homosexuals have been allowed to openly serve in the military, including special units.

Israel also has one of the highest percentages of support for same-sex marriage in the world, with 61% of Israelis supporting civil marriage for same-sex couples.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Israel

Abortion:

...about 40,000 abortions are carried out in Israel every year.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Health/abort1.html

A fairly high number considering their population is around 7.5 million.

So will God bless the Jewish State of Israel for ignoring His Word? (By their "fruits" you will know them).

At present, their behavior reflects that they do not know the Messiah. One has to have a true understanding of G-d to create moral laws. They are not a Christian nation. Many of the Jews there are Atheistic Jews. I would be reticent though to side with Muslim nations against Israel because of the role Israel has in prophecy.

Jews are starting to convert to Christianity there in large numbers. That happens where there is a spiritual vacuum.

I am doubtful about the truthfulness of the links you provided. They may be slanted. LGBT and abortion people do have a agenda when they make edits to wikipedia or when they make articles. They like to inflate their numbers.

At present Israel is being mashed on all sides. I don't think they will be blessed until they turn to G-d.

 

[Ktoyou]

A Messianic Jew is a person of Jewish heritage that believes that Jesus is the Messiah. They do come in many flavors. I am Sola Scriptura and Trinitarian. I reject the Talmud as traditions of men. I like to call it the 'tall mud'. I learned that from a messianic Rabbi.

In that case wouldn't you be Christian?

 

[Sherman]

In that case wouldn't you be Christian?

Yup. Messianic is just another word for Christian. Some do object to that, I don't. I am not ashamed of the word Christian. Is just Christian with a Jewish flavor.

 

[Ktoyou]

Yup. Messianic is just another word for Christian. Some do object to that, I don't. I am not ashamed of the word Christian. Is just Christian with a Jewish flavor.

I still wonder, is it an adherence to Jewish practices, cultural, or ethnic? I doubt you believe in the concept of a genetic Jew? Not too pin you into a corner, I find it interesting your calling yourself something other than Christian? Do you believe you are not part of the Body of Christ and think you will be part of the Earth Kingdom?

 

[miriam]

I'm with Ktoyou. I don't get calling yourself a Messianic Jew. If you believe Jesus is the Messiah, then you're a Christian, right? Why bother calling yourself a Jew if you're a Christian and (I assume) believe that only your belief in Jesus, and not your deeds are what "saves" you?

Not busting your chops, just curious.

miriam

 

[Sherman]

If you don't like the label, when why is it on the menu?

It is the person of Jewish heritage that is Christian. Nuff said.

 

[aSeattleConserv]

At present, their behavior reflects that they do not know the Messiah. One has to have a true understanding of G-d to create moral laws.

Yet the Old Testament is clear about such behaviors as homosexuality.

They are not a Christian nation.

Our (the United States) laws are (or at least once were) established from the Bible, specifically the OT when it came to moral laws.

Many of the Jews there are Atheistic Jews.

I'm familar with the Anti-Defamation League here in the US (pro abortion, pro homosexuality, pro pornography).

I would be reticent though to side with Muslim nations against Israel because of the role Israel has in prophecy.

No worry here, you only need to read my posts to see my concerns about the false religion of Islam.

Jews are starting to convert to Christianity there in large numbers. That happens where there is a spiritual vacuum.

With a few obstacles along the way.
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/new.testaments.publicly.burned.in.israel/19107.htm

I am doubtful about the truthfulness of the links you provided. They may be slanted. LGBT and abortion people do have a agenda when they make edits to wikipedia or when they make articles. They like to inflate their numbers.

Without a doubt they have an agenda. However, I'd heard from various conservatives (including reading conservative websites) about homosexuals openly serving in the Israel Defense Forces. Since abortion (oddly enough) goes along with the homosexual mentality (it's MY body and I can do with it as I please!) the abortion numbers don't surprise me at all.

At present Israel is being mashed on all sides. I don't think they will be blessed until they turn to G-d.

Amen. I hope the citizens of the United States are listening as well.

 

[Sherman]

aSeattleConserv, The irony of the Jews ignoring the laws of Torah, concerning homosexuality and killing of babies does get me. It seems pretty dumb.

I do pray for Israel, that G-d will open their eyes to what they are doing.

 

[Eggasai]

Let try this again. My first try didn't work.

I am a sola scriptura messianic. I am also very conservative in my social views. I think America is drinking out of toilet at present with this gay rights and abortion stuff.

Welcome to the boards! The gay rights thing doesn't bother me as much as judicial activism. As far as abortion, I simply find abortion on demand to be a deplorable form of contraception with few exceptions.

At any rate, I would be interested in some of your thoughts regarding the book of Hebrews and the New Testament significance of Leviticus. As a Christian I'm a strict literalist, perhaps more so then many of my fundamentalist and evangelical brethren.

Hope you enjoy your time here.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[Sherman]

It looks like we will get along quite well. I am pretty literal too. Hebrews trumps Leviticus--Plain and simple. Jesus was the perfect sacrifice. Lambs, bulls and goats are no longer needed.

I probably should set my religion to Christian since my theology is sola scriptura Christian. What race I am make no difference in the kingdom of God.