RELIGION: Man's attempt to become like God.

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Epoisses said:
Because you're an unbeliever! The Samaritans said Jesus was the savior of the world and they had no vested interest in Israel. John 4:42
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Context.

You completely fail to deduce context. What did Paul say concerning deceivers?

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

And there goes your nonsense :wave:
 
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Jesus Christ is Savior of God's kosmos but that does not mean He is Savior of every single human being created in the kosmos.
 
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Epoisses said:
That would be you! LOL. There are very easy tests to determine who believes and who does not and you fail!
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"All those who do not believe what the Bible actually teaches are saved, and those who do are apostates"

~Epoisses' gospel~
 
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Crucible said:
"All those who do not believe what the Bible actually teaches are saved, and those who do are apostates"

~Epoisses' gospel~
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Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. Rom. 5:18
 
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Epoisses said:
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. Rom. 5:18
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1 Corinthians 6:9-10 states DO NOT BE DECEIVED.

You know what that tells me, Eps?
That tells me that you are are a deceiver.

And I'm done with this conversation_
 
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Epoisses said:
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. Rom. 5:18
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Read the quantifier of the word "all" in verse 18, as being "many" in Romans 5:19.
 
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Epoisses said:
All men are condemned by the sin of Adam. You're so weak and pathetic.
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Jesus, a man child born of a woman, from the seed of David, being the sinless exception . . Therefore the "all " of verse 18 is not universal in either sense.
 
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Nang said:
Jesus, a man child born of a woman, from the seed of David, being the sinless exception . . Therefore the "all " of verse 18 is not universal in either sense.
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Yes it is. All mankind has been saved 'in Christ' past tense, 2000 years ago.
 
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Epoisses said:
Yes it is. All mankind has been saved 'in Christ' past tense, 2000 years ago.
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This is "Universalism" teaching which is false.

Jesus did not shed His blood in vain. Those He justified on the cross, will all be saved by the grace of God through faith.

Those who do not believe, were never known by Jesus Christ. Matthew 7:21-23.

He did not die for those souls left outside of the representation His Person.
 
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Nang said:
This is "Universalism" teaching which is false.

Jesus did not shed His blood in vain. Those He justified on the cross, will all be saved by the grace of God through faith.

Those who do not believe, were never known by Jesus Christ. Matthew 7:21-23.

He did not die for those souls left outside of the representation His Person.
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What happened on the cross in not universalism! I wasn't even born yet.
 
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Epoisses said:
We either accept a finished Salvation by faith or reject a finished Salvation by unbelief.
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The unbelief of sinners, cannot undo the will of God.

And the beliefs of sinners, cannot dictate or determine the will of God.

The "finished salvation" of God, was particular to many (but not all), and pre-determined by God, in and for Christ, before the foundation of the world. Ephesians 1:3-8
 
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Nang said:
The unbelief of sinners, cannot undo the will of God.

And the beliefs of sinners, cannot dictate or determine the will of God.

The "finished salvation" of God, was particular to many (but not all), and pre-determined by God, in and for Christ, before the foundation of the world. Ephesians 1:3-8
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God wills all men to be saved. 1Tim. 2:4
 
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Epoisses said:
God wills all men to be saved. 1Tim. 2:4
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If this were to be interpreted in a universal sense, then why are not all men, from the beginning of time, not saved?

Why did God judge (rather than save) all the wicked world in the flood of Noah's day?

Is not God's will always accomplished?

Can the sinful will of men thwart the righteous and holy and omnipotent will of God?
 
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